Jita Park Speakers Corner

Ah, but if you knew that Alex was going to be elected, then you could vote for someone else that you think should be on the CSM, and you would effectively be getting two for the price of one.

The beauty of vote-reallocation systems is that they allow your vote to indicate not just your *first* preference, but also your preference rankings.


This is not correct, for the reason stated above. You may wish to read the Wikipedia article on Voting Systems for a more in-depth discussion of the topic.


If this potential outcome concerns you, then you would be in favor of a system that only transfers undervotes, but not overvotes.

People can -- and should -- argue passionately about exactly what voting system is best. But mathematically, it can be shown that there are systems that are far better than the current one in producing results that represent the views of the voting community.

I am not advocating for a perfect voting system, because there isn't one. I'm just arguing in favor of a *better* voting system, of which there are many.

You should be giving them a lecture in grammar, not this half-way apologist vote-mongering stance.

They ****** up their English grammar reading skills and you should not make any excuses at all on their behalf. They are jacking off the horse while all you wanted was to get Jack off the horse.

AFK cloaking comes to mind there. Howmuch do those participate of the entire idea of multiplayer?

I really wondered about Issler Dainzes thread myself. I like some of her ideas, but the whole thing kinda reminds me of a bad voting scam. To much blah and goons all over the topic.

So who is this Issler Dainze, does she mean business or is it really just a troll? (and wtf is up with CCP, if they allow such a thing in CSM elections)

And you are a member of npc corp. So either you are a coward to not post with your main. Or you are just worthless as human being and no one wants you.

Either way. Congratulations.

Sometimes the the appropriate punctuation completely changes the meaning of a sentence.

Like; "The Independent Voter's Guide to the CSM 7 Elections" vs. "The Independent Voter's Guide to the CSM 7 Elections"

I had almost bought on it until i read the attack on Issler Daize.

Honestly her forum campaign has been easily improveable and she's quite hopeless to build enough support from the miner crowd in the short time left, but provided she's the only CSM runner to take WiS mostly seriously, that's where my vote will end up. if i was interested to "winning" i would go for Hans, but, whatever, passing April this game will no longer concern me...

There is no such thing as objectivity. The pretense of objectivity is the cloak that the very worst types of intellectual dishonesty and hidden agendas shroud themselves in, especially on these forums. Trebor, as a CSM candidate, is a known quantity in terms of his biases, which are available to the public in the form of his candidacy thread and his past actions as a CSM member. As such, his biases are easy to account for, and I would think that anyone would prefer them to the unknowable biases of someone claiming not to have taken a position in this election, with no visible corp affiliation, or from an NPC corp.

I also think Hans has the strongest support outside of the CSM6 runners.
WiS will remain on back-burn until the mit-master gets round to giving his blessing so there really is no point putting your vote in support of it.
Now, if Trebor changed his stance on the issue that would be a game changer.

Can't help but think there is somekinda oldboys club attitude here, you have most the CSM's all patting eachother on the backs saying what a great jobs that some of them did, i'v even heard some trying to take credit for crucible's success, imply that it was CSM's that showed CCP the light...... and not to take away from the actual work you all did do, but it was the the riots, and unsubs that showed CCP the light not the CSM, CSM passed along the crowdsource info, and helped in the process no question, but it was the player that forced the change. Crucible would have never been released had such events never happened.

I kinda went off there, the real reason i'm posting is to ask, what in your opinion qualifies someone as a proven performer?

I would think it would be something like they have been on CSM in the past, and have performed well, but this clearly isn't the case. So if you could shad some light on what looks like oldboys club picks of Hans and your take on "proven performers" as the only votes not wasted that would be great, thanks.