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DEC SHIELD - Now Closed

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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#241 - 2012-03-05 00:19:43 UTC
250 former corporations now. What's truly amazing is how many wardeccers retract their mutual wars against us. We maxed out at 39 wars but now we're hovering around 32-35 for a few weeks. What are people afraid of? We haven't taken on a pvp wing yet, and yet they run before the might of DEC SHIELD!

Burn Highsec Griefers
Silus Morde
#242 - 2012-03-05 02:02:19 UTC
Just finished reading this wonderful thread. Been out of the game since last summer and I had forgotten a lot of things. so thanks for the refresher course. Mostly a tiny mining corp and part of the game I love is the danger - never knowing if I will be war-dec'd or suicide ganked, or have to abandon wrecks when ninja looters are around(forgot that one yesterday and got a scare - thought they were about to suicide my barge), etc. I love to mine, I do have an alt that can fight but would rather mine.
I guess that qualifies me as a carebear, however - without PvP and griefers this game would not be very exciting. Just saying. If I get war-dec'd I have options but you know that is just part of EVE(not all of) and without it - well it wouldn't be EVE. I did laugh at the post that suggested that there be an option to make grievers mine. Thanks for a great thread. There were many tears.

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
Kaeda Maxwell
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#243 - 2012-03-05 14:35:22 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
250 former corporations now. What's truly amazing is how many wardeccers retract their mutual wars against us. We maxed out at 39 wars but now we're hovering around 32-35 for a few weeks. What are people afraid of? We haven't taken on a pvp wing yet, and yet they run before the might of DEC SHIELD!


Ah so you made it mutual we did wonder.

Well bring it good sir! All pew is welcome pew. Pirate
Kat Bandeis
Trinity Industries Corp.
#244 - 2012-03-05 21:16:25 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I don't object to decsheild. It has the fantastic effect of placing a wonderful little mark in the alliance history of corps that need to be put against the wall when summer rolls around.


That says everything you need to say. Translation: "when the kids are out of school."
Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#245 - 2012-03-06 03:55:28 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
250 former corporations now. What's truly amazing is how many wardeccers retract their mutual wars against us. We maxed out at 39 wars but now we're hovering around 32-35 for a few weeks. What are people afraid of? We haven't taken on a pvp wing yet, and yet they run before the might of DEC SHIELD!



because merc corps(not alliances) only have 3 wardec slots and no more, one slot dedicated to an unfruitful war with dec shield is not worth it.

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Kaeda Maxwell
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#246 - 2012-03-06 18:45:41 UTC
Lithalnas wrote:
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
250 former corporations now. What's truly amazing is how many wardeccers retract their mutual wars against us. We maxed out at 39 wars but now we're hovering around 32-35 for a few weeks. What are people afraid of? We haven't taken on a pvp wing yet, and yet they run before the might of DEC SHIELD!



because merc corps(not alliances) only have 3 wardec slots and no more, one slot dedicated to an unfruitful war with dec shield is not worth it.


Mutual wars don't count to the total though, so them making it mutual is doing a favour really ;-)
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#247 - 2012-03-13 21:25:33 UTC
This is a handy tool. Big smile

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Tobiaz
Spacerats
#248 - 2012-03-14 12:01:06 UTC
Inventive use of the mechanics, but I'm baffled that this is not considered an exploit. What?

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DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#249 - 2012-03-14 13:04:42 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Inventive use of the mechanics, but I'm baffled that this is not considered an exploit. What?


It was until the GMs decided that wardecs were unfair to the victims.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#250 - 2012-03-14 13:26:17 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Inventive use of the mechanics, but I'm baffled that this is not considered an exploit. What?

CCP threw in the towel on the issue, it is basically unmanageable in its current form. Hopefully a better mechanic will come out with the next expansion.

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Tobiaz
Spacerats
#251 - 2012-03-14 13:34:00 UTC
I read that the wardecs are up for review in the next big update. If this is now the attitude at CCP, I fear the worst. Empire wardecs is one of the few things keeping empire space healthy, culling the carebears and forcing them to evolve into better EVE-players.

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Fat Lizard
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#252 - 2012-03-14 21:26:38 UTC
Bumping a fantastic service
Thank you Sir
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#253 - 2012-03-16 15:48:37 UTC
285 corps helped (292 by this time tomorrow). We've reached a new record of 42 incoming wardecs as well.

Burn Highsec Griefers
Atomik Harmonik
Working Girls
#254 - 2012-03-16 18:27:53 UTC
I really wish there was a 'dislike' button
Hambonie
Perkone
Caldari State
#255 - 2012-03-17 06:16:33 UTC
So what does care bear Corp do after war decs get fixed in the upcoming expansion and dec shield doesn't work anymore. Since a rework of joining or leaving alliances isn't going to cause you to shead war anymore Shocked

"Soldiers don't die, they just go to hell to regroup"

-Im a anti anti pirate with a carebear side-
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#256 - 2012-03-17 10:50:18 UTC
Hambonie wrote:
So what does care bear Corp do after war decs get fixed in the upcoming expansion and dec shield doesn't work anymore. Since a rework of joining or leaving alliances isn't going to cause you to shead war anymore Shocked

Jump corp? Dock up? Relocate?
Daniel Dalegor
Federal Freight Service
#257 - 2012-03-17 12:50:40 UTC
Im very happy about this alliance and ability to shake off what us dont interest. If someone want PvP let he go to low sec and search for equal fight. :)
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#258 - 2012-03-17 15:45:21 UTC
Hambonie wrote:
So what does care bear Corp do after war decs get fixed in the upcoming expansion and dec shield doesn't work anymore. Since a rework of joining or leaving alliances isn't going to cause you to shead war anymore Shocked


Whatever is needed I suppose, corp jumping before a war starts would be far more common I guess. If there is no options the people in the sandbox that don't want to Pew-Pew will just except the 11% noob corp tax I suppose. It could be potentially damaging to the casual player base though. I doubt there will ever be a game mechanic that forces players to stay in a wardecced corp before the war actually starts. It would turn corps in to prisons.

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Hambonie
Perkone
Caldari State
#259 - 2012-03-18 18:23:32 UTC
Daniel Dalegor wrote:
Im very happy about this alliance and ability to shake off what us dont interest. If someone want PvP let he go to low sec and search for equal fight. :)


Eve isn't about fair fights and having risk free gaming experience. The main problem I see with the dec shield mechanic is the inability to destroy assests like POSs and etc. Because of CCPs failed policy the game is turning from a sandbox into a stagnate marshland.

"Soldiers don't die, they just go to hell to regroup"

-Im a anti anti pirate with a carebear side-
Lady Spink
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#260 - 2012-03-18 20:28:36 UTC
Hambonie wrote:
Eve isn't about fair fights and having risk free gaming experience. The main problem I see with the dec shield mechanic is the inability to destroy assests like POSs and etc. Because of CCPs failed policy the game is turning from a sandbox into a stagnate marshland.


Why would you kill a pos that is still used by someone? that is not nice...

If you find a pos that is not being used, the corp would not use Dec Shield to prevent a war.

Besides that, if you have some guts you should gank a pos..... poofta!