Science & Industry

I've recently returned after a 3 year break. i've been back for 15 days. Day one fleet of 5 tried to gank me in highsec mining.I read about all the ganking and fiited a tank ahead of time. They failed thankfully.

Day 4, fleet of 2 tried to gank me in a hauler, they failed (armor tanked with a repper). Day 15 (today) jumping in to Bei in my Freighter I want to say a blob 0f 8-12? really no idea on exact number, tried to gank me. I had 35% structure left but made it. Concord to the recue once again. Repair bill was going to be 76m I ended up flying my main out to rep it. That took a while let me tell ya lol.

Wont even get in to the expriences i've had on my main in lowsec no solo pvp to be found at all and lots of roaming blobs :(

I was interested in getting more invovled in indy and mining this time around, mainly because I
dont have the time to commite to anything else right now. So far the risk of run of the mill normal operations related to that doesn't seem to be worth the reward. I tend to do my research and plan for the worse, so far i've been lucky. Never had any trouble like this before. This point I question if I should continue to move freight. Maybe just stick to local trading. I should note I was almost empty when I was attacked, I assume it was for the lols as the loot wasn't worth it. Lot of bcs wasted for nothing imo.

As for mining I wanted to give that a go and start building. Have a couple alts in training. However at this point I feel it would attract to much attention. Comes down to finding a dead area, which I haven't researched yet. Or 0.0 for safety. neither is what I want to do but adapt or die, right?

I took a break from game for a couple years for two reasons.The exploration changes. I have horrible depth perception and couldn't use the new system. I really enjoyed hunting those down, at the time I was in 0.0 and a group of us would get togather to take on the sites I found. Was a good night on vent, half drunk and tanking 30 BS waves while reds were popping up in local. Good times. The main reason was the lack of content for solo PVP. This time around I was more interested in trying diffrent aspects of the game. It's a bit of a learning curve but it's pretty interesting and rewarding when you figure out some things that work.

Indy is the way I want to go at the momment, more I learn and research the more interesting and appealing it gets however with the amount of attempts on my person, I just had to ask is this normal?

Well, if you like mining and small gang pvp, you should look into Wormholes. It has that in spades.

I have to ask what you are hauling. I have never had an attempted gank on me. Lols only goes so far.

As far as mining, again...never even an attempt. Where the hell is all this going on?

Probably just a case of bad luck.

ganking has been pretty heavy recently, I hadnt been in hisec for a long time and came back from 0.0 recently and it seems like ganking has turned into a full time profession.

I am guessing...totally GUESSING, that given the amount of concern over the issue that CCP might do something about this. I hope that it will take the form of a change to the bounty system. I dont think that just nerfing some of the popular gank ships OR buffing the tank of hulk is a wise choice and I also dont like the idea of buffing CONCORD, just seems sorta lame to me.

now letting me hand over my kill rights to my PVP alt? oh yea...letting me put out a huge bounty on the ganker that can only be paid out according to how much the ship he is in is worth? sounds delicious.

for now, fit a decent tank (sounds like your doing that) and watch local like a hawk. know your local friends and mark them as blue, when you see someone unfamiliar or see a familliar gank ship (destroyers, T3 BCs etc.) dock up or run to the POS.


btw, if you like the sound of hurting gankers by improving the bounty system, Hans is behind these ideas and is running for CSM, check it out.

I feel ya man. In the past 2 weeks, I have had about 7-8 gank attempts on my hulk/orca/retriever group ( all of which are me. Alts for the win ). But thankfully i keep a battlecriuiser and a shuttle in my orca and after I lost my hulk last week i immediately switch out to the BC/shuttle if anyone besides a barge or industrial come sin the belt. It all really depends on where you are in my opinion. dont mine close to low sec or a popular area. I have found a nice quiet little place to call home that only ever sees about 7-8 people in local and I know most of them. And for traveling, if you use a freighter, the trick is to filll the cargohold with about 1-2K m3 of useless stuff like marines, scrap metal in an individual pile. that way when they cargo scan you it fills up with about 60-70 items of nothing. That has actually helped me move over 4 billion worth of equipment without being ganked before. better luck next time man

Dude you gotta stop mining in systems next door to Jita.

Don't autopilot freighters with anything even approaching a gank worthy amount. Don't carry more then 1b per load in your freighter. If you really must carry more, use a webbing alt. Make it as hard as possible to make isk off the gank and the gankers will usually pick an easier/more profitable target.

I gotta admit I'm with you here, I haul stuff in freighters constantly, I have mined for 6 years (albeit not in high-sec).
I have no idea about this stuff, but seems obvious to me the t3 BC's have made it all much worse going by reports.

^^ This. When it comes to being a target of highsec ganking location makes all the difference.