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Do new players look in the Recruitment forums?
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Berrik Flux
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-03-05 00:56:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Berrik Flux
I've started a new corp recently and I really want to bring in mostly new players. Do the new players who get on the forums even know about the Recruitment forums? How do new players find corps besides just joining the first guy outside the starter station flying in his big shinny ship?
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-03-05 03:53:19 UTC
Most new players don't even know that the forums exist, so no they don't really look at the recruitment forums. However, it is still against the rules to cross post. If you want to find new players, go to the rookie systems and solicit them from in game.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-05 04:58:02 UTC
I didn't know the forums existed for a long time. I think it is high time CCP made the forums more obvious to newer players.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-03-05 10:41:37 UTC
New players likely don't even know about the forum parts.

What you can do is spam your forum link in the recruitment channel in game and they will notice (new players like to click yellow coloured link text).

Also when recruiting new players, be sure you can offer them something that makes them want to join your corp. (I'm in no way trying to snatch new players from you as we don't recruit new players).

It's just there are thousands of new player friendly corps around EVE, so you have to compete with them. Some are really settled and are hard to compete with, so good offers why a new player should join your corp will help you recruit them.

p.s. Cross posting recruitment ads in the new citizen part of forum is not allowed and posts can be deleted for doing it.

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Roland Renoir
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-05 13:06:08 UTC
Hey, Berrik Flux. As a newbie, I'd say that no, we don't usually read the Recruitment Forum. Most might not even know there is a forum (!).

And if you quickly check the Recruitment Forum you'll notice that not only it advertises mostly not-newbie corps and that most titles won't lure the new player.

(When I say new player, I mean someone with around one week in-game)

For instance, your topic already states that you are an Industrial Corp. And that you are recruiting Miners, Haulers, etc. What if the new player don't even know what they want to be in-game? What if they don't think they are still up to being called a full-fledged Miner? Even if you say that new players are encouraged to apply, the rest of the topic discourages, imo.

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Ogi Talvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-03-05 13:27:37 UTC
Best corps imo for new players are Eve University, Dreddit and Goonwaffe.
Liam Mirren
#7 - 2012-03-05 14:26:43 UTC
Tbh, if newer players don't even know there's a forum then that means they're lazy idiots. How on earth can one choose to start playing a game without checking the website and forum for tips and starting guides.

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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-03-05 15:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Sin Pew
Liam Mirren wrote:
Tbh, if newer players don't even know there's a forum then that means they're lazy idiots. How on earth can one choose to start playing a game without checking the website and forum for tips and starting guides.

Reading is so 20th century, Liam Lol
Most people browse to sign-up page, follow step 1 and 2, then close the window and start playing...
... then they ragequit one month later and start a whinney thread on the forum because Eve is harsh, unfair and return to playing WoW Blink

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Liam Mirren
#9 - 2012-03-05 16:05:00 UTC
You make this sound like a bad thing.

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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-03-05 17:01:06 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
You make this sound like a bad thing.

Reading or ragequitting?

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Roland Renoir
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-03-05 17:10:53 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
You make this sound like a bad thing.

Reading or ragequitting?


Or return to playing WoW?

"Give a man fish and you'll feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you'll feed him for his life."
Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-03-05 17:24:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ettu Brute II
I've always been baffled by comments that new players don't know about the forums.

Why anyone would join a game as complex as EVE without first doing some research is beyond my imagination.

I spent weeks poking around the web site, Evelopedia, forums and various off-site resources before opening my first account.
Liam Mirren
#13 - 2012-03-05 18:02:56 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
Liam Mirren wrote:
You make this sound like a bad thing.

Reading or ragequitting?


Lazy people rage quitting, obviously :)

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Pontifex Rex
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-03-05 19:16:14 UTC
Im a newbie and I found my corp through the forums. True, the vast majority of newbies dont check the forums, but I like to think that those who do are the "self starters" and the types of people you would most likely be interested in recruiting in the first place.
Berrik Flux
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-03-05 23:20:41 UTC
Thanks for the responses everyone. I've taken out the link to the recruitment post.

To the people, new or old, that can't bother to read the forums, especially with a game as complex as EVE, those are the ones that I'm not looking for. If they don't get on the forums, chances are they probably won't be in the Recruitment Channel either. As that channel is more for the seasoned veterans, IMO.

Roland Renoir: I never thought about the corp description as being non newbie friendly. I do understand your point though. Let me make myself clearer, as I failed to do that in my first post. I'm looking for those that have done the tutorials and are wanting to get into the industrial side of EVE. I'm not looking to spam and harass new players as they undock for the first time.

I'll have to change and add to the description though. Make it a little "new player' friendly.

Once again, thanks for the responses. Fly Safe everyone o7
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#16 - 2012-03-06 08:03:19 UTC
If i dont remember wrong (been a long time since i did the tutorial but seem to remember someone telling me this last year) the tutorial will advice you to go to the recruitment channel when you are close to finished with it.
If this is no longer the case,or if my memory is totally off im sure CCP is atleast planning to add in a last bit talking about the recruitment channel,the recruitment section of the forums and the ingame recruitment tool.

And for the OP. Dont remove your post. Just add it in with your adverstiment. If nothing else it will help people realize that there is a forum section ment purely for recruiting.

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Michelle Devereux
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-03-06 09:07:35 UTC
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
Best corps imo for new players are Eve University, Dreddit and Goonwaffe.



And RvB, according to the splash screen advert on the log-in page.......P
Liam Mirren
#18 - 2012-03-06 11:47:59 UTC
Pontifex Rex wrote:
Im a newbie and I found my corp through the forums. True, the vast majority of newbies dont check the forums, but I like to think that those who do are the "self starters" and the types of people you would most likely be interested in recruiting in the first place.


Indeed, and it works both ways.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-06 11:49:20 UTC
Michelle Devereux wrote:
Ogi Talvanen wrote:
Best corps imo for new players are Eve University, Dreddit and Goonwaffe.



And RvB, according to the splash screen advert on the log-in page.......P


No that is not true, RvB is just on the splash screen as they wasted a huge amount of ISK to be there. Better idea for that huge pile of ISK is to actually use it for the corp (give people some ships to fight each other with).

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Ogi Talvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-06 11:55:23 UTC
Michelle Devereux wrote:

And RvB, according to the splash screen advert on the log-in page.......P


Come back home Michelle. TEST is way more fun then RvB! Cool
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