EVE Fiction

In exploring the Sleeper mystery, and diving into an inspiring debate over Semiotics with Wyke Mossari, I began to discover unusual and remarkable similarities in the symbolism of disparate populations within the New Eden cluster.

I began to find the Jovian influences I suspected to be even more pervasive than I had first believed. You dubbed me mad, then. Whether you choose to call them Enhuadanni, Jovians or Sleepers, they are all of the same stock, a nomadic culture I assume to be the first explorers into New Eden, a group of the mythical Terrans representing the fringes of the “Old World”. Dispossessed and always searching out new homes for others. The Talocan, perhaps a derogatory much akin to Thukker, lived about their polestars. They were not dependent on the gravity wells of planets, like the early planetary settlers. Likely, this was the greatest factor in the downfall of many early colonies, when the Eve wormhole event transpired.

There is much in the way of solid evidence toward the common root theory of human evolution, making us all of the same “race”. The ancient, derelict “shuttles” scattered across the cluster pose an odd quandary. If we assume these giant derelicts to be of human origin, we must also assume that mankind was quite a bit larger in the far distant past.

The only plausible I find to explain it away, is genetic manipulation or mutation on a massive scale. We see evidence of this type of adaptation in many species. But nothing on the scale suggested by the shuttles. The Jove have admitted to wholesale, government sponsored and mandated “genetic manipulation” upon it's “populace”. I once called US the Jovian lab rats, if you'll recall.

But, I digress. Forgive me, please.

Acknowledging, at least the possibility of, this common ancestry, we might expect to find commonalities across a spectrum of cultural and social sampling. And indeed we do.

Take, for example, the Caldari Blazon. The circle, broken or unbroken, but, all encompassing, symbolizes longevity and completeness. The circle is everywhere. We find this commonality in many cultures, the Intaki life circle and the Gallente Ouroboris, come immediately to mind, as well the same serpent surrounding the Ni Kunni Blazon and abstraced in the Achuran Blazon...

Time is a serpent that writhes beneath the heavens.

Within the broken or unbroken circle the, often stylized, letters c and i.

In many cases it mimics an E with the i turned horizontal as in the Eifyr logo. The Civire Blazon is the same symbol, mirror imaged against itself. Or the whole symbol is rotated, as in the Intaki Blazon. This is, incidentally, the profile of a certain high profile site in wormhole space, too. At one point I thought this might signify Enhuadanni...

You decide..

A quick reply (much briefer than the topic deserves): Could it be that the Sebiestor or Vherokior (or both) derive from Nordic cultures? I say this because of the Nordic names of some of their ships, as well as the names of the systems in Minmatar space. On the other hand, the Brutor, though apparently of African bloodline, also seem to share the Nordic language influences. So perhaps only one of the Minmatar tribes was of Nordic descent, and its linguistic traditions spread to the other tribes after they'd confederated.

Please note that I'm not putting these ideas forth as theories. They are only the comments of a layman with a very incomplete knowledge of background and facts.

I had tried to avoid assigning a "nationality" to anyone, more of a cultural basis. I imagine interplanetary travel gets rid of the traditional paradigms. While the Intaki certainly appear to be Hindi, I don't know that it means more than religion. Though, I would guess that Indian blood is prevalent in the strain. I think it is more CCP trying to open up possible cultural premise for everyone.

And the last time I brought up the racial crap I got the "race card" slapped down on me, though with my mixxed up heritage, that's funny.. It does look like the Amarr slapped down HARD on their fellow colonists the Ealurians, much like the Nazi's did to the resident Jews in Germany. Wiki Lurian kabbalah, then evelo the map of the Takhmal temple.. Oh and scroll down the Kabbalah page until you get to the ties to Zoroastrianism.. Circumstantial, I know, but, that's all I ever go on..

If that's not enough say Tok-hm-mal.. Oi..

My take on the Matari Tribes has always been based upon Scandinavian\Nordic cultural influence, primarily. Brutor I take to reflect South Africa. Some permutation of Afrikaan might well be what they speak. Many of the Tribes do seem to hail from the New World, the Americas saw heavy immigration from Germany during and immediately following WWII, I believe that is the basis for the "Nordic Heritage" of the Tribes. The South Pacific, as well.. I have no clue what the Nordic tie is there.. Vikings?

Britain was another nation that saw heavy immigration from Nordic lands, leading to a melding of Celtic and Nordic traditions. Although I don't know firsthand, I would imagine Begium and some other nations are similar.

The Tribes each have their own traditions, and all seem to have their own inherent "Nordic-ness". When I was younger, and thinking about a career in medicine, I was told that German had replaced Latin as the language of choice, I don't know if that still holds true..?

Something else from the new wiki for the Ni Kunni, more hints about religious refugees... That is more and more appearing to be a trend.. Maybe the "unification" of the church wasn't well recieved?

Oh, and I always thought of the Thukkers as Gypies or Irish parkies! Same for the Jove, some shady characters..

Jin-Meis looks quite Chinese IMO, their random family names contains something like "Stein-Tian","Blahblah-Guo", which sounds really Chinese.
At the mean time, the family names given to Achuras have some Japanese sounding ones.

interesting topic, on a site note, where did you get information about a Yan Jung Fuel Monopoly?

~Sigh~
The hints are in the Ni Kunni evelo entry, as to their ethnic identity.. The key hint is the people are typified by their nose, stature and physical appearance.. In this case an aquiline nose, which is generally typified of Mediterraneans and native Americans.. Look at the profile on an old U.S. Indian Head nickel..
The desert of the southwest U.S. is their birthplace, not the middle east. Wind Dancing? Shamanism? Sun and water? Hopi or Sioux would be my best guess.. Perhaps Tony G. had a hand in this.

From the evelo “Ni-Kunni men tend to have rather craggy faces, with many lines and creases, and are readily identifiable by their rather prominent noses. Indeed, among the Ni-Kunni, a large nose is a traditional sign of virility and masculinity, and several bawdy jokes have sprung up around Ni-Kunni noses. The men also have high cheekbones and rather sunken cheeks.”

A Roman Nose.

Although Mediterranean is still a possibility, I stand by Native American. Craggy faces.. Not a Mediterranean feature that I am aware of.. Though being American I could be wrong.

As to the Udorians and the Deteis, since you chose to ignore my mad ramblings disclaimer, the similarity is in the blazon, or logo of the Tash Murkon and the Deteis.

As to the Civire, they are Caldari, Japan\Finland, so I could have assumed the Civire as Finnish, due to their more prominent caucasian appearance. But then the Civire blazon is an exact replica of the Eifyr logo, in mirror image next to itself. So, given the Matari's obvious Pacific ocean ties, I chose to assign them to the Aussies... Mad Ramblings... Why do they listen to us to begin with precious?

The pre collapse society was a star faring culture, just because they settled on different planets doesn't mean they were different people, though that, too, could very well be true..

For the uninformed reader let us clarify that "mad ramblings" ranges from "baseless claims" to " wild speculation" and "wishful thinking".

Some people like this stuff. Not particular fond of it myself anymore.

Lolwut?? Great goddess you've gone off the deep end again.

You don't know what Europeans look like at all do you?

That's why I picked the race is because they LOOK FRENCH, or even Spanish or Portuguese for that matter.

I demand you get out of your basement right now and purchase some copies of Hommes Vogue toute suite.

"Mad Ramblings!!" Man, they draw out the indignity of the masses...

Many of these "notes" are pre Incarna.. Yes, in the old character creation the Gallente looked Indonesian.. Hell, they barely looked to be any current human race on the planet, back then.. Maybe Jovian modifiers, who warped the human anatomy into something they saw as beautiful.. Quite honestly the old character portraits were race specific and did not allow alot of variation from the "norm".. And the "norm" for the Gallente were of a decidely Asian, or even alien, caste... They were not an "attractive" people back then..

Very solid outline of the Gallente, Wyke, thank you..

Look at me, I am Caldari, vogue isn't a word we understand..

Basement? I'm not in the basement.. It's creepy down there.. And something keeps scratching at the door..


OH, and don't go citing my above statement as Asians are unattractive, that's not what I imply, even though some of you will read it that way..

Yes. This.



Actually Tau Ceti is a single star/solar system not an entire constellation. Stars within a constellation are named with Greek letters in descending order of magnitude.

It is a bit of science fiction trope as well