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Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-03-02 00:02:50 UTC
While I have never used any of them, there are people who buy mission loot, here's one for example

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=870687#post870687

I'm not involved with any of these people, just happened to remember seeing the posts. There was also Universal Jita but apparently they have quit offering the service. I'm sure there are others out there who are doing the same and I've also see people in the Mission channel in-game offering to salvage and buy loot so you might give that a shot also.
sloany
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-03-02 11:56:01 UTC
I think https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24859 is good, made me a pretty penny or two.
Aggressive Nutmeg
#23 - 2012-03-03 06:27:52 UTC
I'm a hoarder. I don't reprocess or sell anything.

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Ruffie Winter
Pyke Syndicate
Solyaris Chtonium
#24 - 2012-03-03 17:46:58 UTC
Klymer wrote:
There was also Universal Jita but apparently they have quit offering the service.


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Izziee
University of Izziee
#25 - 2012-03-03 21:33:10 UTC
Craggus wrote:
When you guys salvage and loot and you just get tons and tons of random loot.. do you just melt it ALL down or do you go through it and find the loot that will actually sell for a decent price on the market? If you DO go through it and check, is the only way to do it just to select view market details on each and every mod?

I've just gotten back to missioning a bit and am not sure which one I should do.


People will likely tell you to sell Meta 3+4 and reprocess the rest..

This is complete crap tbh. There are so many terrible 3+4 items that's worth nothing, and actually quite a lot of 1+2 items that sell for a fortune.

Basically, just go through it all selling 1 at a time and learning what's what. After a while (especially if you mission in the same place) you'll get to know what's worth what and then you can just skim through it.

I've stopped looting now it's quicker and more ISK per hour to move rght onto the next mission, but one way you can do it is not sell ANYTHING and just dump it all in a container and stack it all up then one day, clear the lot out.

That way, you'll end up with like 70+ armour repairer 1's or whatever, and that would have saved you 70 seperate checks, and you'll find rather than 3000 seperate items, you're left with 300 stacks or something, at least until you've learnt whats what.
Jastra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-03-03 22:36:41 UTC
Nuela wrote:
I reprocess it all without looking.

When you are missioning, one should mission. Spending time looking at crap is not productive.

Basically, follow these rules:

1) Don't waste time on crap

2) It's all crap



my 7 mil for a named target painter disagrees with your hypothesis

Takes a while but certain stuff is worth looking out for, but the majority is just melted down, meta 4 is often used for invention so always a healthy market
Fozzy Dorsai
Friendly but Irritating
#27 - 2012-03-03 22:42:31 UTC
Izziee wrote:

Basically, just go through it all selling 1 at a time and learning what's what. After a while (especially if you mission in the same place) you'll get to know what's worth what and then you can just skim through it.

I've stopped looting now it's quicker and more ISK per hour to move rght onto the next mission, but one way you can do it is not sell ANYTHING and just dump it all in a container and stack it all up then one day, clear the lot out.

That way, you'll end up with like 70+ armour repairer 1's or whatever, and that would have saved you 70 seperate checks, and you'll find rather than 3000 seperate items, you're left with 300 stacks or something, at least until you've learnt whats what.

I do a version of this. I kind know the stuff that sells well in my area, so I look for that in my Noctis hold, and anything else goes into a storage area. Whenever I feel like doing something Eve'ish, but nothing regular, I'll go through the pile and reprocess the junk.
In this way I save some time, get some immediate benefit from the known items, and not accidentally throw something out that flies under the radar.
Ann133566
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-03-04 07:41:16 UTC
I assume you mean high sec LVL 4 missions. I used to loot everything, especially when the Noctis first came out. Now, I find that I burn through missions, (especially since I gotten good drone skills) so fast that it's more effeicient to just hand in the mission and begin the next one. I do however fit a salvager to my ship and search named wrecks and a few large wrecks to see if there is something worth grabbing, this is only because I build rigs on the side. However, if you are missioning in a Drake or have low dps, it's worth your while to salvage wrecks at least until you get a good fit or better SP.
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity
#29 - 2012-03-04 22:20:10 UTC
After a while you get used to what's worth a lot on the market and what is better off as minerals for the common items.
With regard to the meta level of items - some are insanely overpriced for what they do simply because of the meta level. There are one or two items that differ only in one tiny trivial detail of the specs yet will sell for five times more. Often the T2 variant is significantly better in many ways but also significantly cheaper.
This is the net result of people setting their prices based on the meta level rather than what the item actually does when you're using it.

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Caroline Grace
Retrostellar Boulevard
#30 - 2012-03-05 03:53:24 UTC
Craggus wrote:
When you guys salvage and loot and you just get tons and tons of random loot.. do you just melt it ALL down or do you go through it and find the loot that will actually sell for a decent price on the market? If you DO go through it and check, is the only way to do it just to select view market details on each and every mod?

I've just gotten back to missioning a bit and am not sure which one I should do.



I'm doing happy L4s and looting and salvaging almost every mission! And I melt into minerals only ammo and batteries. I fly to Jita every time I have about 100+ looted items in my hangar and then sell it. I'm not searching for the price much, Jita has good prices Big smile Alright, not always. When I see some red -85% stuff, I just view the market details and set more approriate price. And thats it Smile

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Bifordus Maximus
MissoCorp
#31 - 2012-03-05 04:23:52 UTC
What I usually do is right-click on the item and click sell item. It shows what the closest buying price is. If a single unit of that item is 100,000 isk or over I sell it. This is not the best method but its pretty quick and after a while you learn what the Meta 4's are and what the prices should be for them. Anything under 100,000 isk ends up being reprocessed. Don't reprocess faction items that can only be sold through contracts.
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-03-06 01:02:10 UTC
Forthe people that dont salvage, a thing that i have found very useful both for karma and for isk , is to hire a noob in a dessy to follow you and salvage everythig for you, buting them a noctis bpc (1 mil) and having them build it (or doing it for them) will earn you good will, a bit of loot isk, free rigs, and someone who will come to your rescue (if you need it) in a dps ship or a t1 logi.

I have done this with several people helping them make their way up to level 4's of their own, i can burn through missions pretty quick, fast enough to keep a dessy satisfied but not fast enough for a noctis, but a small group of missioners will do more then enough for a noctis pilot, is also a nice way to grow your corp and get to know someone.

as to the other half of this, the loot
i generally drop it into a can (or cans depending on the mission aea) and collect it in an orca when i get to 65k m/3
fly it to the nearest hub and sort by meta, (i do inventions) and sell most everything above 500k
repro the rest.
then orca the materials to my industry hub and make new ships to go out and get blowd up in, and i make rigs. I have such a supply of rig materials Ive made them available to my corp for when they want to go pvp or fit up a new mission ship.
one of the biggest issues i see in alliances and corps is fit and rigged ships for exploding. readily available minerals , rigs and m3 gear make this much easier. the more bodies you have the cheaper you gear can be.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#33 - 2012-03-06 02:04:33 UTC  |  Edited by: MadMuppet
I used to speed loot (I just grab the stuff inside the wrecks and leave the wrecks themselves) as the time wasted to pull and salvage the wrecks for rigs bits is not worth the time (8 tractors on a Noctis clean up fast this way). I then throw all the loot in to a station container and let it ferment for a few weeks.

I then haul it all to a trade hub and run down selling it. I pick a minimum 'market value (anything below say -15% below market I reprocess unless it is worth a lot of isk)). Otherwise I sell it. Not perfect, I freely admit that, but I make a good profit while I watch a movie without getting lost in a spreadsheet for hours.

I may not be making the 'best profit' but I was still making a profit. However I am almost to scrapmetal reprocessing, so I will be paying a little more attention to the next batch of salvage.

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Marsan
#34 - 2012-03-06 04:30:00 UTC
I used throw it all the main hanger then once a week do the following:

1) Click on it and hit sell.
2) If sells for more than 15k and I'm getting 80% of value sell.
3) If the average is high, but I'd be selling it for under 80% I
4) If neither 2 and 3 are true reprocess it.

Also I keep on eye out for anything that has a really low sell price and refines for reasonable amounts of minerals. In which case I put in a buy order for that item at about 50% of what the minerals are worth. You can make millions with little risk this way.

PS- Now I just bring an Orca and throw everything into the Orca, and haul it back to a trade hub when full.

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Ira Infernus
Knights-of-Cydonia
#35 - 2012-03-06 14:27:38 UTC
You quickly learn what will be worthwhile just by getting used to the names. On my salvage boat I have a can inside it with which i place high value goods based on name alone. ifim not sure then I will check something. That way when I get to the station I dont have to sort everything out in a massive items list as I have already done it at the looting stage
Nuela
WoT Misfits
#36 - 2012-03-06 14:55:23 UTC
Jastra wrote:
Nuela wrote:
I reprocess it all without looking.

When you are missioning, one should mission. Spending time looking at crap is not productive.

Basically, follow these rules:

1) Don't waste time on crap

2) It's all crap



my 7 mil for a named target painter disagrees with your hypothesis

Takes a while but certain stuff is worth looking out for, but the majority is just melted down, meta 4 is often used for invention so always a healthy market




Sure, you will find the occasional one...but how much time spent looking? If you can average 60 mill per hour missioning, every minute you spend looking at crap means you didn't make a mill...plus the reprocessed painter still gives you something.

I used to look at everything but discovered it is just not worth the effort. Melt it all down.
Nuela
WoT Misfits
#37 - 2012-03-06 15:00:29 UTC
Ann133566 wrote:
I assume you mean high sec LVL 4 missions. I used to loot everything, especially when the Noctis first came out. Now, I find that I burn through missions, (especially since I gotten good drone skills) so fast that it's more effeicient to just hand in the mission and begin the next one. I do however fit a salvager to my ship and search named wrecks and a few large wrecks to see if there is something worth grabbing, this is only because I build rigs on the side. However, if you are missioning in a Drake or have low dps, it's worth your while to salvage wrecks at least until you get a good fit or better SP.



Same here. I salvage faction missions to get the tags (yes, I actually take faction missions :) ). I salvage certain missions that have few/one room and many BS wrecks of better rats (like Assault). I salvage if I need a break from mission running/diversion. I will also salvage if there is a mission object that drops many kms away...might as well go back and get noctis. I sometimes salvage certain drone poop missions.

Probably 1 in 5 missions and, I expect, if I was to evaluate it I would find I'd be better off getting another mission.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-03-08 17:32:00 UTC
Nuela wrote:
I reprocess it all without looking.

When you are missioning, one should mission. Spending time looking at crap is not productive.

Basically, follow these rules:

1) Don't waste time on crap

2) It's all crap


11x 'Arbalest' HML = ~120mil
8x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I = ~35mil
35x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I = ~45mil

just listing some of my sell orders from this week

I should buy an Ishtar.
Eian
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-03-08 21:27:04 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Nuela wrote:
I reprocess it all without looking.

When you are missioning, one should mission. Spending time looking at crap is not productive.

Basically, follow these rules:

1) Don't waste time on crap

2) It's all crap


11x 'Arbalest' HML = ~120mil
8x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I = ~35mil
35x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I = ~45mil

just listing some of my sell orders from this week


Nuela is clearly challenged mentally.

It's this simple. I know what sells for far more than refines and vis versa. I know just looking at it. If you melt everything you are lossing far more FAR FAR FAR more isk than you think you are saving by not selling.

Any statment otherwise is suspect to mental issues that we are not authorized to help you with.

I would also recommend selling only once a week. Cuts done on the clicking trauma. :)
Darrow Hill
Vodka and Vice
#40 - 2012-03-09 12:13:39 UTC
Eian wrote:
I would also recommend selling only once a week. Cuts done on the clicking trauma. :)


I only hit a trade hub when I need tags to cash in LP (every 12 to 14 missions).

Once there:

a) sell salvage
b) sell Meta 4's
c) create contracts for the LP items manufactured
d) restock on ammo if needed

I horde minerals from the meta 3 and down loot for manufacturing that I do at my mission station.

I make, on average, 80 million on the meta 4 and salvage sales with no more effort that sorting by meta level.

Blindly grinding everything really is a waste.
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