EVE General Discussion

This is bannable (alt recycling).

use a cheap ship to kill expensive ship
potential profit
if not for profit it makes your killboard look better then when u get killed to badgers.
not for killboards, for tears
not for any of those, just bored i guess

why is it bad? because look at the penalties.
you lose your ship, woopee, it probably worth less then 100mil
security status drop, this is irrelavant if you live in 0.0 or lowsec, can be grinded back up decently fast, and unless they fixed it even -10 people can go to highsec in a pod and jump into a ship to suicide gank people.
isk faucet, as both people get insurance payouts

why is it good?
carrying expensive stuff in cargo requires planning
lolsauce killmails when people lose supercarrier bpos in frigates and stuff.
helps eve economy a bit
mineral sink, minerals to make the ship are lost to make new ones.

what they could do is offer incentives to keep your sec status high.. if you have +5 its about the same is having 0.

…and the thing (that others have pointed out already) is that it most likely already is. The problem is rather that, after years of security buffs and a complete abandonment of policing various exploits, suicide ganking is the last and only resort. If there has been any real increase in ganks (and I still doubt it on a longer scale, even though February had more of them than January according to CCP) then it's because there's nowhere else to go.

That's part of it, and it kind of follows on the above point: it's not necessarily that ganks pay too much — it's that the alternatives pay too little compared to the effort involved, due to how difficult they have become to set up in the “security creep” that has happened over the years. In addition, this security creep negatively feeds the profit mechanism: the safer people think they are, the more value they put into (or onto) their ships without worrying about it, so the better-paid the ganks become, the more the effort/reward for this kind of piracy goes out of whack…

I still maintain that the best thing that can happen to highsec is to make it much less inherently safe, which requires people to adopt safety behaviour to decrease their risks, which improves their chances to avoid or just plain old survive ganks, which forces attackers to adopt better-planned strategies (that the lower safety level now allows for)…

…and everyone wins (kind of): people are effectively more secure; that security is player-made; more combat options are available for the pirates; and more variety, choice and planning is available to all.

The design flaw is in the increased security, which gives the wrong signals to the victims and which lock attackers into a single tactic, and how these two then keep reinforcing themselves.

“Goons are mean”.

I wish I could give this more likes. I wish I could paste this on walls everywhere.

I'd love to be doing other forms of ******* with other people than safaris and suicide ganks. Seriously. Fights would be ******* excellent, but there's a whole buffet of **** I'd love to be doing to people but has been nerfed and nerfed and nerfed again. But these is the tools I am reduced to. If you don't like people like me suicide ganking you or awoxing you, then give us something else interesting to do.

Or, as my father once told me 'Son, you can only **** with the **** god gave you.'

Thank you for that.
Its our communal duty to aid the uneducated and illiterate :)

Oh, really? Pirates whine about neutral RR, wardec mechanics, etc etc. This thread is just a thinly-veiled cheese and whine fest about how CCP won't protect your self-entitled carebear lifestyle.

Because almost everything is allowed and nobody gives an s**t - it so human, isn't it?

I miss my goats.

New people aren't flying around in Exhumers.