EVE General Discussion

The main problem is most suicide gankers are in cheap throw away ships and alts and go for soft targets so obviously have the desperate need to brag how brave they are to kill an unarmed mining ship or indy or what ever usually because they haven't the balls to use their main or a decent ship that they will loose, this kind are classified as "knuckledraging WOW intelect kiddie types" mainly, The fun thing to do is lure them to a tempting target, which turns out to be able to tank them then put "SUCKERS" in local its as funny as f*ck to watch them pop and you would be suprised then how many mouth off back to you cos their little boy mentality cant accept they were stung and tricked by a miner. :] There are various way to carry this out just be inventive. the better you are at it the more of them together are needed and/or more expensive ships they need to make their hit work that pushes up their costs as well.
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It's easier to join null buy a 10$ bot on the internet and make gazillions isk in total safety while being afk watching tv, go out do real good stuff.
Then it's always nice to log on forums and play forum games that are obviously entertaining.

Because most are in NPC corps in cheap thowaway alts and ships dumb ass. and you cant dec an NPC obviously your`e EVE ignorant!
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Even if the mechanics are changed _again_ (that would be round 10 IIRC) good players would still find ways to farm bad players.

Yes, please, threaten me with suicide ganking crew. Grow up. This is the prime example of the people who need to go back to playing WOW. They don't have the intellect to do anything that might actually force them into a fight they might loose. No where in the world do legimate corporations openningly consort with criminals. If you want to be a criminal, then you have to deal with the conseqences of your actions. CCP really needs to institute a prison system like Escape from New York or better yet place them in a padded cell like any suicidal person is kept in by authorities for a long length of time. Keep players from clone jumping so they are forced to risk the fancy implants they don't want to risk while suiciding themselves. Force gankers to pay for damages done before being allowed to grind back their security status. If a PVE player is forced to deal wtih PVP players, then at least make the losses equal.

And by the way, there is no where on the main site that claims EVE is a pvp only game. so either the developers need to change their advertising or actually make EVE a game of all varieties.

1. "Go back to WoW"

2. Suicide gankers are too stupid to play the game the "right" way

3. Suicide gankers are pathological and belong in padded cells.

4. Eve isn't a PvP game.

5. There are no consequences for suicide ganking.

It's amazing that you managed to fit every fallacy or cliche about suicide ganking into a single paragraph. There should be some sort of medal.

Ah there speaks a typical Goon wanabe just like another one of your ah, dim witted kind your compatriot John Zorg who pretends EVE needs ballance, and that from another Goon wannabe lol yeah and pigs might fly. LOL your'e a sorry group of poor dim bas*ards, so much so you cant even aggree amongst yourselves whats good or not for or in EVE.

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Your John Zorg, who attempted rather patetically to answer this my statement which is shown below.

Sorry bub no matter what you put forward or how eloquently you put it over, most EVE players just wouldn’t trust anyone involved or attached to Goons, you have made your selves a universal pariah to the majority of normal players, so the trust level relating to your group to actually do as to what you so blithely portray would register as -99.9 Goons have stood for too much griefing and other crap in the past to be trusted to being balanced. You have cut your cloth now wear the suit.
Players don’t want an EVE according to the book of Goon

or Goonwaffe whatever that is.

You are not even a true Goon. Just a wannabe Goon trailing along in their great shadow. like some beggar attempting to be what youre not. "Goonwaffe" sounds like some watered down erzats version of the "True Goons".

Suicide ganks are so prevalent in highsec because highsec PvP is broken. It's so broken that it's the only viable offensive method left. Even the GMs will freely admit this. They'll tell you that yes Wardec mechanics are broken and the only viable way to get at someone is to suicide gank them.

Have you tried actually visiting the main site before making these kinds of claims?

When I go there now, its main feature is a rolling slideshow showing four particular areas: “One universe”, “Discover the sandbox”, “EVE's creations” and “Be a capsuleer”.

One universe: a lot of talk about dominating the galaxy, taking part in warfare, engaging in politics, competing against other players.
Discover the sandbox: discusses how every action you take affects the rest of the universe.
EVE's creations: mainly videos featuring combat.
Be a capsuleer: mentions that there are other players…

…of these four highlights, only the last one does not feature combat and competition in a very clear way (and even the capsuleer page shows competition between players). In addition, all of their advertising is about the PvP. So yeah, no, you'd have to be pretty darn daft to look at the main page or read anything about EVE anywhere and not grasp the PvP nature of the game.

They advertise the game for what it is — there is no need to change it to make it “a game of all varieties” (largely because it would be impossible and because it would actually ruin everything that makes the game special).

Also, new stats from CCP: less than 900 ships per day are used for suicide ganks in February.