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Martyr Theos
The NecroMonger Faith
#61 - 2011-09-21 20:31:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Martyr Theos
Takashi Kaeda wrote:
Martyr Theos wrote:
Well I guess that about wraps it up. Thanks for the visual aids posted. Even a noob gamer doing a cursory review of the info provided in this thread BY THE SUPPORTERS of Cement Cell Block Zero can see that the end game of Eve is dead.

No point to subscribing to this game because the power blocks hold all the cards ... so if you play, the only option is to join them and take your place as a useless cog in their ant farm. Well that is about as appealing as a cow-pie sandwitch... so, let's move along and look for something else to spend our time and money on.

EVE... not dead just yet, but dieing.



You are dumb.


And you are an IGNORANT TOOL.

If I was a new potential player, given the choice between the two.. I'd choose dumb (and subscribed to a different game.)
Jita Alt666
#62 - 2011-09-21 20:33:32 UTC
Kuzzka wrote:
Roman empire was real, Alexander the great was real, but they didn't last for too long. Give it a time and we will see for how long DRF will last. =)


The Roman empire did not last a long a time? What? Are you implying that our great great grandchildren should be ready to strike at the heart of the Eve Online Internet spaceship alliance DCF?

Seriously go and read some history. Parts of the Roman Empire survived as a global power for over 600 years. As a full dominant global power it controlled pretty much everything for over 250 years.

Your definition of not too long is interesting. Roll
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2011-09-22 00:10:28 UTC
http://www.damnlol.com/backwards-baseball-cap-more-strength-2129.html

For you guys.. In Honor of your Blobbery and all its glory..
Princess Cellestia
Friendship is Podding
#64 - 2011-09-22 04:32:38 UTC
Hey guess what, I'm going to give you a pro tip. If you hate the DCF so much here's what you do, stop squabbling amongst yourselves, join forces, and start fighting. Form your own alliances and GTFO of highsec. Within 24 hours there will be several stations in Delve open as free ports, get out there and join the thunderdome. Quit whining and crying and actually DO SOMETHING.

I'm telling you this because I know none of you will do a goddamn thing. You're going to continue macro mining and botting l4s and crying. A 40 man alliance would never survive nullsec, a 100 man alliance will never survive, if you can't get 6 or 7 corps with 3-400 people you shouldnt even be thinking about nullsec, it should be so far out of your minds that you don't even acknowledge its existance. Maybe you should be in lowsec getting a feel for non station game pvp. You should be learning fleet comps, fitting, and teaching your fcs how to lead a fleet. You know how it goes in null, 100 man fleet is small fleet, 50 people is an average size gang, these are not blobs, this is how you fight a war, and null is a state of perpetual warfare. You don't go into a gunfight against 100 people with 10 guys with rocks and pointy sticks and get to complain. That's not things being unfair, that's you being an idiot.

Get your people, get your ships, fit them right, and get out here and fight us. And I don't mean fly in then run away screaming about blobs, get out here and fight. We go up against supers with canes. If we die, we reship and go back to the fight. That's why we win, we never EVER stop. If we run out of battleships we get in battlecruisers. We run out of battlecruisers we get in destroyers. We run out of destroyers we get in frigates. We run out of frigates and we'll come at you in noob ships till you die or we cant afford clones anymore. We fight, we die, but we never quit. That's the mentality you need in nullsec. If you are afraid to die you've already lost everything and you will never have sov, you will never expand, you will always lose.
Commander Spurty
#65 - 2011-09-22 04:38:34 UTC
how embarrassing for you to spend so much effort on F.U.D. stuff.

OopsOopsOopsOops

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Invitus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#66 - 2011-09-22 08:51:46 UTC
Apollo-Moor wrote:
http://www.damnlol.com/backwards-baseball-cap-more-strength-2129.html

For you guys.. In Honor of your Blobbery and all its glory..


Honor, in an online sandbox.... ha.
Tarikla
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2011-09-22 09:30:40 UTC
Just let them think they are powerful . That they have won EVE .

One they'll get all 0.0 (only a matter of time really) , this will happen :

- Some of the DCF corps will realize that they are no more PvP , only Arenas™ boring as WoW's ones are . Ganking Wardecced HS corps will not hold them very long . Soon , they will start to down some NIP and shoot some people inside DCF itself , and then will surely be kicked out of it . As more and more corps will realize that , DCF power will weaken , ultimately breaking it apart .
Sneakybustard
Doomheim
#68 - 2011-09-22 14:53:49 UTC
Princess Cellestia wrote:
Hey guess what, I'm going to give you a pro tip. If you hate the DCF so much here's what you do, stop squabbling amongst yourselves, join forces, and start fighting. Form your own alliances and GTFO of highsec. Within 24 hours there will be several stations in Delve open as free ports, get out there and join the thunderdome. Quit whining and crying and actually DO SOMETHING.

I'm telling you this because I know none of you will do a goddamn thing. You're going to continue macro mining and botting l4s and crying. A 40 man alliance would never survive nullsec, a 100 man alliance will never survive, if you can't get 6 or 7 corps with 3-400 people you shouldnt even be thinking about nullsec, it should be so far out of your minds that you don't even acknowledge its existance. Maybe you should be in lowsec getting a feel for non station game pvp. You should be learning fleet comps, fitting, and teaching your fcs how to lead a fleet. You know how it goes in null, 100 man fleet is small fleet, 50 people is an average size gang, these are not blobs, this is how you fight a war, and null is a state of perpetual warfare. You don't go into a gunfight against 100 people with 10 guys with rocks and pointy sticks and get to complain. That's not things being unfair, that's you being an idiot.

Get your people, get your ships, fit them right, and get out here and fight us. And I don't mean fly in then run away screaming about blobs, get out here and fight. We go up against supers with canes. If we die, we reship and go back to the fight. That's why we win, we never EVER stop. If we run out of battleships we get in battlecruisers. We run out of battlecruisers we get in destroyers. We run out of destroyers we get in frigates. We run out of frigates and we'll come at you in noob ships till you die or we cant afford clones anymore. We fight, we die, but we never quit. That's the mentality you need in nullsec. If you are afraid to die you've already lost everything and you will never have sov, you will never expand, you will always lose.



blah blah blah. yea right, form up come and fight you say. if someone would like to have their own space they would be blobbed to hell by 200+ man supercap fleet + carriers and countless subcaps. there is no way and no force that can match DCF. so anyone who would like to play this game being in 0.0 owning some space would need to join you or be your pet. you know what? **** you. and i think many people will feel same way and show it by dropping subscription.
Lorren Canada
High is the Way - But all eyes are Upon the Ground
#69 - 2011-09-22 15:43:07 UTC
XJennieX wrote:
eve sov 0.0 is done. aside of some few areas to just grind through it is now owned 2/3 DRF and renters of them while rest is owned goons & co who have now agreed blue standings with DRF making whole of conquerable space to be blue to eachother. again, congratulations on "finishing the game"


There are several things wrong here.

Firstly, the whole "DCF" thing started as a troll. Now certain major leaders (Mittens, UAxDeath) seem to find the idea intriguing beyond that of a troll, but there is no guarantee others will go along, especially in the DRF.

Secondly, if the DCF thing were to happen there would be no new blue standings, but a NIP between the DRF and CFC. We would still shoot each other, but no sov warfare.

Thirdly, Dominion ****** up the sov so badly that just about no one really wants to grind it anymore. period.

Next time get your facts straight before making a post.
Leeroy McJenkins
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2011-09-22 16:43:59 UTC
Wait wait.. its not all doom and gloom yet. There is still 1 bloc fighting our Pax Drone Cluster -- the aptly named Against ALL Authorities and tools. Roll

I Don't play EVE
Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2011-09-22 16:46:35 UTC
Martyr Theos wrote:
Yes... and as the gaming community understands this more and more, the declines in new subscribers will accelerate.

CCP needs to counter balance the situation by revitalizing solo PvP with weapons that are truly threatening to the Mega-Corps in zero. When they do this, the solo masses in highsec will flock to solo PvP assaults on the Moguls. Why? Because they can.. that is IF CCP arms the solo pilots with truly BUNKER BUSTING FIREPOWER. It would be fun to do.

The fun factor will bring droves of new subscriptions of new players hellbent on destroying everything in zero.

or CCP can just continue the same "set in cement" situation now and die a slow death as subscriptions continue to slide.


Solo masses? Contradiction, no? Straight
Judge Ment
Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate
#72 - 2011-09-22 16:50:38 UTC
there still empire?

Nothing to see in 0.0 anyways / Its the same trip everyday! Failscade Shocked
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2011-09-22 19:44:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Princess Cellestia wrote:
Hey guess what, I'm going to give you a pro tip. If you hate the DCF so much here's what you do, stop squabbling amongst yourselves, join forces, and start fighting. Form your own alliances and GTFO of highsec. Within 24 hours there will be several stations in Delve open as free ports, get out there and join the thunderdome. Quit whining and crying and actually DO SOMETHING.

I'm telling you this because I know none of you will do a goddamn thing. You're going to continue macro mining and botting l4s and crying. A 40 man alliance would never survive nullsec, a 100 man alliance will never survive, if you can't get 6 or 7 corps with 3-400 people you shouldnt even be thinking about nullsec, it should be so far out of your minds that you don't even acknowledge its existance. Maybe you should be in lowsec getting a feel for non station game pvp. You should be learning fleet comps, fitting, and teaching your fcs how to lead a fleet. You know how it goes in null, 100 man fleet is small fleet, 50 people is an average size gang, these are not blobs, this is how you fight a war, and null is a state of perpetual warfare. You don't go into a gunfight against 100 people with 10 guys with rocks and pointy sticks and get to complain. That's not things being unfair, that's you being an idiot.

Get your people, get your ships, fit them right, and get out here and fight us. And I don't mean fly in then run away screaming about blobs, get out here and fight. We go up against supers with canes. If we die, we reship and go back to the fight. That's why we win, we never EVER stop. If we run out of battleships we get in battlecruisers. We run out of battlecruisers we get in destroyers. We run out of destroyers we get in frigates. We run out of frigates and we'll come at you in noob ships till you die or we cant afford clones anymore. We fight, we die, but we never quit. That's the mentality you need in nullsec. If you are afraid to die you've already lost everything and you will never have sov, you will never expand, you will always lose.



I just fell in love with you. <3

I really see no point in 0.0-carebear-space (well, of course not all of it)
and i really see no fun in huge fleets listening to some guy who has a title (the FC),
but i love the possibilites and the fun you people have doing all this.

Anyway ... of course they are whining, bitching, whatever word fits ...

It's just like in real life. People rather send thousands of letters to a stupid newspaper
to tell "everybody" what they think, instead of actually doing something against what they believe needs change.

I, for one, would love seeing the big alliances kick the asses of
every. single. one of them. Hunt them down in HighSec.

That's what they deserve anyway.


Please consider it.
Thx a lot. :)
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2011-09-22 21:08:10 UTC
XJennieX wrote:
eve sov 0.0 is done. aside of some few areas to just grind through it is now owned 2/3 DRF and renters of them while rest is owned goons & co who have now agreed blue standings with DRF making whole of conquerable space to be blue to eachother. again, congratulations on "finishing the game"


There is mostly peace after years of struggle to conqueror the NC. However, I don't believe that the game is "finished." in regards to 0.0 sov. Simply because 0.0 is controlled by people not computers; and people as a rule tend to change alliances/standards/policies all the time.

Eventually, sooner or later, someone will pis s someone else off. Someone's pride will get hurt. Someone will get greedy (aka Goons) . Some will have to prove "im the better brother" etc.

Its in human nature to betray, resent, lie, steal. This is what makes the 0.0 sov warfare gears turn, for better or worse.

Oh, btw. Keep an eye on delve sov. I think you'll find there are some interesting alliances going on.
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AFKCloaked AltSpy
Doomheim
#75 - 2011-09-22 21:48:05 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Kuzzka wrote:
Roman empire was real, Alexander the great was real, but they didn't last for too long. Give it a time and we will see for how long DRF will last. =)


The Roman empire did not last a long a time? What? Are you implying that our great great grandchildren should be ready to strike at the heart of the Eve Online Internet spaceship alliance DCF?

Seriously go and read some history. Parts of the Roman Empire survived as a global power for over 600 years. As a full dominant global power it controlled pretty much everything for over 250 years.

Your definition of not too long is interesting. Roll


And your definition of "pretty much everything" is ******* laughable.
Herp McDerpinstan
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#76 - 2011-09-23 08:13:42 UTC
Sumos Tigerclaw wrote:
Zagam wrote:
u mad?


That's the best you can do? u stupid?


He mad.
Martyr Theos
The NecroMonger Faith
#77 - 2011-09-24 03:59:32 UTC
Sneakybustard wrote:
Princess Cellestia wrote:
Hey guess what, I'm going to give you a pro tip. If you hate the DCF so much here's what you do, stop squabbling amongst yourselves, join forces, and start fighting. Form your own alliances and GTFO of highsec. Within 24 hours there will be several stations in Delve open as free ports, get out there and join the thunderdome. Quit whining and crying and actually DO SOMETHING.

I'm telling you this because I know none of you will do a goddamn thing. You're going to continue macro mining and botting l4s and crying. A 40 man alliance would never survive nullsec, a 100 man alliance will never survive, if you can't get 6 or 7 corps with 3-400 people you shouldnt even be thinking about nullsec, it should be so far out of your minds that you don't even acknowledge its existance. Maybe you should be in lowsec getting a feel for non station game pvp. You should be learning fleet comps, fitting, and teaching your fcs how to lead a fleet. You know how it goes in null, 100 man fleet is small fleet, 50 people is an average size gang, these are not blobs, this is how you fight a war, and null is a state of perpetual warfare. You don't go into a gunfight against 100 people with 10 guys with rocks and pointy sticks and get to complain. That's not things being unfair, that's you being an idiot.

Get your people, get your ships, fit them right, and get out here and fight us. And I don't mean fly in then run away screaming about blobs, get out here and fight. We go up against supers with canes. If we die, we reship and go back to the fight. That's why we win, we never EVER stop. If we run out of battleships we get in battlecruisers. We run out of battlecruisers we get in destroyers. We run out of destroyers we get in frigates. We run out of frigates and we'll come at you in noob ships till you die or we cant afford clones anymore. We fight, we die, but we never quit. That's the mentality you need in nullsec. If you are afraid to die you've already lost everything and you will never have sov, you will never expand, you will always lose.



blah blah blah. yea right, form up come and fight you say. if someone would like to have their own space they would be blobbed to hell by 200+ man supercap fleet + carriers and countless subcaps. there is no way and no force that can match DCF. so anyone who would like to play this game being in 0.0 owning some space would need to join you or be your pet. you know what? **** you. and i think many people will feel same way and show it by dropping subscription.



Sneakybustard:
I have unsubbed and so has a friend of mine after 6 years of Eve partly because of the very point you made here.
I agree... the only thing I do in zero anymore is trade to screw isk out of the Alliances. It is all that is left for any pilot to do in zero that doesn't involve being a Zerg Bot.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#78 - 2011-09-24 04:00:48 UTC
Locked for no content. OP might want to elaborate if this is good/bad and why.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
The Offerer
Doomheim
#79 - 2011-09-24 04:08:18 UTC
Martyr Theos wrote:
Yes... and as the gaming community understands this more and more, the declines in new subscribers will accelerate.

CCP needs to counter balance the situation by revitalizing solo PvP with weapons that are truly threatening to the Mega-Corps in zero. When they do this, the solo masses in highsec will flock to solo PvP assaults on the Moguls. Why? Because they can.. that is IF CCP arms the solo pilots with truly BUNKER BUSTING FIREPOWER. It would be fun to do.

The fun factor will bring droves of new subscriptions of new players hellbent on destroying everything in zero.

or CCP can just continue the same "set in cement" situation now and die a slow death as subscriptions continue to slide.

That "BUNKER BUSTING FIREPOWER" of individual pilots can be multiplied in group of individual pilots... in fact in a group of hundreds of individual pilots in the same fleet. And you've solved what exactly?
Martyr Theos
The NecroMonger Faith
#80 - 2011-09-24 04:50:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Martyr Theos
The Offerer wrote:
Martyr Theos wrote:
Yes... and as the gaming community understands this more and more, the declines in new subscribers will accelerate.

CCP needs to counter balance the situation by revitalizing solo PvP with weapons that are truly threatening to the Mega-Corps in zero. When they do this, the solo masses in highsec will flock to solo PvP assaults on the Moguls. Why? Because they can.. that is IF CCP arms the solo pilots with truly BUNKER BUSTING FIREPOWER. It would be fun to do.

The fun factor will bring droves of new subscriptions of new players hellbent on destroying everything in zero.

or CCP can just continue the same "set in cement" situation now and die a slow death as subscriptions continue to slide.

That "BUNKER BUSTING FIREPOWER" of individual pilots can be multiplied in group of individual pilots... in fact in a group of hundreds of individual pilots in the same fleet. And you've solved what exactly?



I don't think your definition of Bunker Busting is the same as I'm thinking... I mean "Nova Bomb".. I want the first ship thru the gate to be able to set off a bomb that will destroy, not only itself, but everything within say 250 to 300 kliks, regardless of ship size.

Now ask yourself a few questions...
1) Will blob fleets disperse?
2) Will gate camps disappear?
3) Will more highsec pilots be tempted to visit zero knowing that they WILL GET THEIR POUND OF FLESH.
4) Will it be harder to hold large swaths of space (keep in mind that 75 percent of the pilots now are not in zero).
5) Will there be more or less PvP?

And if you really want to improve the game... get rid of local and add cloaks for POSs that you only drop to enter or leave so small corps can hide in zero.