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Remaps for PLEX!

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Stella SGP
#21 - 2012-03-03 10:03:45 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Stella SGP wrote:
Apparently its Taboo to suggest linking PLEX to anything other then gametime.

It is not taboo, it is just not good for the game.

And the unrestricted P2Win by way of Plex -> ISK is good for the game?
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#22 - 2012-03-03 11:40:46 UTC
Insurmountably cretinous idea, ban the OP for life please.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Hainnz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-03-03 11:47:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Hainnz
Tippia wrote:
You do realise that this would benefit older players far more than new ones, right? Malcanis' Law is in full effect here…


I would argue that a little bit. As a character gains more skillpoints, the value of those skillpoints begins to drop.
Valei Khurelem
#24 - 2012-03-03 11:49:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
I think before we decide to do anything else with PLEX beyond offering game time is get rid of the nex store first so we can see what happens if a smaller feature like this gets introduced otherwise prices will just get ridiculous.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#25 - 2012-03-03 12:11:58 UTC
Stella SGP wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Stella SGP wrote:
Apparently its Taboo to suggest linking PLEX to anything other then gametime.

It is not taboo, it is just not good for the game.

And the unrestricted P2Win by way of Plex -> ISK is good for the game?


The difference being that PLEX/GTCs offer a better overall solution for the game compared to the black market of RMT.

MTs are pathetic cash grabs that CCP is willing to forgo better judgement in order to squeeze money out of their lolcustomers. See the whole spawning painted scorpions for aurum only debacle, and read fearless.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#26 - 2012-03-03 12:21:54 UTC
I have a better idea: get rid of remaps, get rid of attributes. Just one SP/hr rate for everyone.

No more weekends spent organising, optimising and reprioritising that training queue to find that the fastest way to get into a black ops battleship is to not fly any T2 ships for 17 months, then jump straight into a Widow, because you're better off training all the science skills during your Int/Mem remap, all the way up to Jump Drive Calibration 5 (because it's better than 4), then hop over to a Per/Wil remap to train to fly cruisers, battleships, covops and then black ops.

Attributes and remaps are an evil that must be purged.

With no attributes or remaps, we'd be able to enjoy flying covert ops and recon ships while training to fly a black ops without worrying about the training queue taking an extra 3 months. Planning skill training could then become more like project management rather than accounting :)

The only downside is that we'd kill the market for attribute implants. But then we wouldn't have people married to their +5 jump clones, so there would be more PvP.
Macrathleachlainn Lucian
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-03-03 12:48:27 UTC
Quote:
so there would be more PvP.


HOLD UP GUYS.

This guy is trying to make suggestions that might stimulate PVP??!?!

BANHAMMER!!! GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY!!! YOU NOT WQRTHY OF THIS GAME!!@!!@ !




etc...

:E
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#28 - 2012-03-03 13:17:54 UTC
T R O L L

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Velicitia
XS Tech
#29 - 2012-03-03 13:23:41 UTC
Xyla Vulchanus wrote:
Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:
Maybe even 2... remaps... for 1 plex.. or no wait probably the other way around.

win win wins for everyone!

:E



Would you please unsubscribe immediately?


You forgot "give me your stuff"

also, the biomass queue is that way Arrow

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#30 - 2012-03-03 13:26:44 UTC
*BANG*

I do not approve of this product and/or service.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#31 - 2012-03-03 13:27:44 UTC
Tippia, I must thank you personally for being quick in response to these insane ideas and suggestions that pester general discussion.

An o7 for you!
RedLion
State Constructions
#32 - 2012-03-03 13:35:38 UTC
If the idea to get more people to do PvP, I would fix 2 other issues first:
- Reduce clone cost
- Remove attribute implants.
Orion Guardian
#33 - 2012-03-03 13:41:56 UTC
Quote:
If the idea to get more people to do PvP, I would fix 2 other issues first:
- Reduce clone cost
- Remove attribute implants.


Well at least you can chose not plug in implants, (and you dont need more than 2 +4s anyway) but having to pay 30m+ for a clone automatically for bitter vets like me make me think, "why should I fly a ship that costs less than my clone"?

And about the Ops idea: Well it may allow players to spend ISK to quickly change the focus of their training, but well it will for SURE help older players to "get the new skills that came out this expansion" without delaying their normal Skillplan too much.

Forexample: I am training INT/MEM now....for the next 450 days. As I can fly most ships anyway its no big deal for me. If the introduced a new T2 Ship in Summer though I'd have to think about "well change my Plan and use one of my free remaps for it, or train the skill at minimum SP/h rate?" If I could juts buy a PLEX for a free remap that would be a no brainer ;)
Stella SGP
#34 - 2012-03-03 13:45:05 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Stella SGP wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Stella SGP wrote:
Apparently its Taboo to suggest linking PLEX to anything other then gametime.

It is not taboo, it is just not good for the game.

And the unrestricted P2Win by way of Plex -> ISK is good for the game?


The difference being that PLEX/GTCs offer a better overall solution for the game compared to the black market of RMT.

MTs are pathetic cash grabs that CCP is willing to forgo better judgement in order to squeeze money out of their lolcustomers. See the whole spawning painted scorpions for aurum only debacle, and read fearless.

PLEX/GTC is a better overall solution for CCP and not necessarily better for the game.

Before the controversial partially leaked newsletter, they took back the painted ships after concerns were brought up.

As for fearless... lol? You can believe what you like about it, selective reading FTW. Your claims are based on pure speculation from 1 newsletter, but yet you chose to believe it with unwavering faith that that must be only truth. Its almost akin to asking an atheist to believe in Jesus just because there is a book about him.

So, tell me, how does CCP work? What are their plans for Inferno or this winter's expansion? Since you seem to know so much about whats going on in their thought process and can criticize without a shred of doubt.

[sarcasm] How dare a company try to make money off its customers [/sarcasm]
Macrathleachlainn Lucian
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-03-03 14:28:34 UTC
If this game is going to be pay to play BY CHOICE, at least let other mechanics of the game be CHOOSABLE BY PAY.







BANHAMMER!!!! GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY!!!

Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-03-03 14:35:24 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Insurmountably cretinous idea, ban the OP for life please.


my friend you being to kind ban him for all his lifes

eve is about sin

Macrathleachlainn Lucian
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-03-03 14:37:29 UTC
mai flen lealn to engrish.
Ismol Mond
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-03-03 16:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ismol Mond
Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:
If this game is going to be pay to play BY CHOICE, at least let other mechanics of the game be CHOOSABLE BY PAY.







BANHAMMER!!!! GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY!!!


Relax mate. I did say come back when Dust comes out.
Btw I like CoD for what it is, a one dimensional FPS (all FPS's are pretty one dimensional imo) that I played a couple of times on my nephews console a while ago.
Any and all attempts to shorten or eliminate a very tried and true, and happily unique, skill system are no different than whining about how long it takes to get to level 80 before the 'real' game begins. Screw the journey I want to face the boss mob today! Face it man that's really all you're saying, and that is readily available on CoD and soon Dust.

P.S.
I probably should have been constructive and offered advice on how to enjoy pew pew, or at least some element of it, at all levels of your Eve career but that has been done ad nauseam on these boards that I can't imagine there would be a point to it.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-03-03 16:57:24 UTC
Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:
Maybe even 2... remaps... for 1 plex.. or no wait probably the other way around.

win win wins for everyone!

:E


No need for that crap. All I want is SP for plex and kick balls black market of Eve toons for real money trading. Lol
Macrathleachlainn Lucian
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-03-03 17:10:05 UTC
Quote:
Any and all attempts to shorten or eliminate a very tried and true, and happily unique, skill system are no different than whining about how long it takes to get to level 80 before the 'real' game begins. Screw the journey I want to face the boss mob today! Face it man that's really all you're saying, and that is readily available on CoD and soon Dust.


It seems to me there are a number of people in this thread that can not stand the fact that if an option like this would be introduced, it would mean the people with RL bank accounts (or fat ISK) now not only can buy skillpoints by buying characters...

THEY CAN NOW SPEED UP THE PROCESS.

That's really all you are saying. Jealous because you can not pay for something you had to bust your balls over twice.

Right now you need to "psychologically acquire the knowledge of the power supply and CPU on your ship before you can use it."


Keep smoking them rocks brohim.




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