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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#281 - 2012-03-03 05:46:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
I want to disintegrate people with a flashy death ray gun. How do I go about doing that?

Because I don't really feel like waiting for a nuclear holocaust, survive inside a vault, wait even longer and one day when I am out wandering about in the wasteland, stumble over a crashed UFO where one of the dead aliens has a flashy death ray gun....

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#282 - 2012-03-05 13:25:02 UTC
If your still being good enough to answer people serious queries (while I would be interested in particle weapons theoraetically Twisted)

My question goes something like this

Theres no such thing as the perpetual motion machine right?

Every effect has an equal and opposite consquence, nothing is frictionless etc.

How then do so many atoms display exactly the properties we refer to and say are impossible

ie, a continous system of motion that neither gains nor loses anergy and perputuates idefinatly?

Stumped me last night when I thought about it anyway

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]

Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#283 - 2012-03-05 21:41:34 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
If your still being good enough to answer people serious queries (while I would be interested in particle weapons theoraetically Twisted)

My question goes something like this

Theres no such thing as the perpetual motion machine right?

Every effect has an equal and opposite consquence, nothing is frictionless etc.

How then do so many atoms display exactly the properties we refer to and say are impossible

ie, a continous system of motion that neither gains nor loses anergy and perputuates idefinatly?

Stumped me last night when I thought about it anyway


Thermodynamics was specifically developed to explain complex systems of many MANY particles. a perpetual motion device would be a macroscopic, closed, isolated system, that exists in a non stationary energy state and never decays to a lower energy state when left to its own devices. but consider a hydorgen atom. the lowest energy state of a hydrogen atom still has an "orbiting" electron because lower energy states are quantum mechanically disallowed. that hydrogen atom would be in a stationary state.

its like a slinky on the a flight of stairs. it is the natural tendency for the slinky to move down the stairs, but once it hits the bottom, it has no where to go, so it stops.
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#284 - 2012-03-05 22:22:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsadkiel
Alpheias wrote:
I want to disintegrate people with a flashy death ray gun. How do I go about doing that?

Because I don't really feel like waiting for a nuclear holocaust, survive inside a vault, wait even longer and one day when I am out wandering about in the wasteland, stumble over a crashed UFO where one of the dead aliens has a flashy death ray gun....


loved that game :3

there is an energy in molecules known as the bonding energy, which is related to the energy required to disassemble a molecule back into its constituent atoms. the bonding energies of many simple diatomic molecules (so H2 or N2 or HCl or whatever) are measured on the order of hundreds of kiloJoules per mol! this is an insane amount of energy from the standpoint of the process that occur in your every day life (assuming you aren't usually on fire). but we aren't made of simple diatomic molecules. we are made of very VERY complex molecular structures, each consisting of hundreds if not thousands of individual atoms, and they likewise have much MUCH higher bonding energies.

even after cremation the body leaves literally piles of amorphous carbon and calcium structures behind... but lets assume that ash is good enough for you Twisted i found an estimate on the energy required to get the human body to this state (ignoring a lot the other factors like water and gass content. just an average heat capacity) and to "first order" it is about 1000 BTU/lb, or 1.055 MegaJoules/lb. (a million joules per pound of person vaporized). assuming you are vaporizing soldiers or something and not children we can assume that they are around 200 lbs so the total energy requirement comes to around 211 million joules. so, now, lets say your raygun is like a phaser or something and it needs to dump all this energy in about .5 seconds or so. this means that your ray gun has a power requirement in excess of 422 million Watts, which is enough power that you can start counting the number of homes it would be able to supply per day XD
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#285 - 2012-03-05 22:29:42 UTC
EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote:
What acceleration are we subjected to while sitting in the chair? Are the following factors relevant? Earth gravity, rotation of Earth around the sun, solar system rotation or movement around the center/whatever of our galaxy..... add things that you think are relevant too.


so, this depends entirely on your frame of reference. if you were to calculate your net acceleration with respect to the room you are sitting in it would be 0, because you are at rest. after that it depends on the frame in which you are calculating it. with respect to the moon? the sun? the galactic center? the local group? net force and acceleration are not frame invariant quantities.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#286 - 2012-03-05 22:31:09 UTC
Cool think it's quantum mechanics I'm interested in thanks, I may look into it sometime.

Don't know if it's been asked before but why are planets all on a plane while in orbit around the sun?

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]

Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#287 - 2012-03-05 23:27:15 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Explain to me the reason for resonance peaks for neutron cross sections with relation to neutron energy with different elements. I want maths. I'll definitely understand it, but I have a hard time finding this kind of information in my books or anywhere on the web.


i can explain it but i am not going to go through the derivation of something like particle cross sections on the forum because i can't draw feynman diagrams here and the forum does not support Latex, so the math would be ugly as hell. if you have the quantum mechanics background, Introduction to Elementary Particles by Griffiths is a good start. i use my copy all the time.

for those of you who may be unfamiliar with the question, here is a brief overview. suppose you take two neutrons, smash them together with some energy E, and examine things like how frequently the neutrons collide, or the quantity and type of particles that are produced after the collision. what you will see in general is that the harder you try to smash them together, the more likely it is that the neutrons will interact. HOWEVER, at certain energies you will see a spike! a rapid increase in the rate at which the neutrons actually collide! this is called a Resonance effect the question is why does this happen?

smashing subatomic particles is not like smashing rocks together. the particles produced in the collision are not "parts" of the initial particles. they are bits of matter that have condensed out of the energy released in the collision (they are technically quantizations of their respective fields), and this occurs in a similar fashion to making change. if you want to make $6 in change the "easiest" (and therefore most likely) way is with a $5 and a $1, and not 24 quarters. similarly, if you have enough energy to produce a pion after the collision, then you are more likely to get that pion and not a whole bunch of electrons and positrons instead.

when we write down the math that describes the state of the particles at the point where we might see them collide, what we are doing is writing down a sum of the probabilities of all the possible outcomes of that collision (all the possible ways we can make change). what we see when we do this is that the particles like to condense in a way that converts as much of the collision energy into rest mass as possible. this occurs as a direct result of kinematics; specifically conservation of momentum. it is much "harder" to arrange 100 electrons and 100 positrons in a state that conserves momentum with respect to the collision than it would be to arrange a pi+ and a pi-. this is simply because there are more bodies to account for and because it is unlikely any one electron would carry the majority of the momentum, while the pi+- result can easily distribute the momentum evenly. as a result, the resonance peaks land on energy ranges that match up with the rest energy of other allowable particles from this collision

so as we start increasing the energy of the collision, we get to energy ranges where a collision would produce many MANY particles per unit energy, and so the possible states are kinematically restrictive and therefore unlikely. in these ranges, the collision probability is almost completely dependent on the dimensions of the colliding particles. we also get to energy ranges where the collision would produce fewer, more massive particles per unit energy, and so the possible states are more likely.

or at least that's how i think of it... hope this helps!
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#288 - 2012-03-05 23:35:27 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Cool think it's quantum mechanics I'm interested in thanks, I may look into it sometime.

Don't know if it's been asked before but why are planets all on a plane while in orbit around the sun?


conservation of angular momentum! the initial planetary nebula that formed our solar system had some net rotational velocity. as the cloud condensed into the planets its angular velocity increases because the average radius of the cloud was decreasing. this causes it to flatten out (think "spinning ball of pizza dough").

this also is part of why pluto is no longer considered a true planet of the sol system. the fact that its orbital plane is so skew with respect to the rest of the planets indicates that it was a rogue object captured by the suns gravitational field, and not part of the initial nebula.
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#289 - 2012-03-06 00:05:43 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
Ok, I have a question. er, questions.

(not reading all these pages so sorry if its been asked)

I'm on a doomed vessel traveling into a black hole.
OR
I'm on a planet that is about to be pulled into a black hole.
OR
pretty much anything where i fly screaming and cursing into a black hole.....


How is this going to work out for me? Of course I'm about to die, but do I actually feel myself getting ripped apart? Does time slow down and it takes an eternity for me to die the most painful possible death? how long could the perception of my death be? do i just get squished pretty fast before the real crazy stuff starts? Does physics just break down and my brain isn't capable of functioning to a degree that I'd be cognizant ?

separate points of order

could we all be falling into a black hole right now and not even know it? could the entire universe actually exist inside of a black hole? what is a black hole outside of a super-dense mass that 'dents' space/time? why is it a singularity can seem like such a simple concept but be so impossibly complex? can they really be gateways to other places, dimensions, realities or hell with an eye-less Sam Neill?

some people were telling me the entire universe is actually 2 dimensional, we just happen to experience a 3d projected effect of it. what the hell is that all about? does this have anything to do with black holes?

thank you in advance for your answers, these are important and pressing questions that we all should be more informed on. Especially considering our most assured and imminent horrible screaming apocalypse death at the hands of a rogue black hole.


oh man, i love Sam Neil and that movie :3 Event Horizon was great! i'm totally watching it as soon as i get home now heheheh.

ok so first paragraph appears to be all about Death by black holes :3 the technical term for this is Spaghettification. and no, i'm not making this up! the gravitational force acting on an object is directly related to the distance between the two bodies in question and their masses. this means that there is a very slight difference between the force of gravity acting on the hair on your head compared to that acting on your toes. we don't usually notice this because on earth that difference is astronomically small. but near a black hole is another story... here, the difference in the gravitational forces acting on different parts of your body is significant, and this difference increases more and more as you approach the hole.

if you are falling in feet first, eventually the force difference between your head and your toes will be enough to break the molecular bonds holding your midsection together, and you will snap in half. your torso and your legs will continue to fall and the force differences will continue to increase, eventually snapping you in half at the knees and chest. as you continue to fall this process continues on and on, until you are just a single stream of atoms, then a single stream of subatomic particles, and then just energy. the time it takes for this to occur again, depends on your reference frame, but an observer outside the horizon would never actually see you cross it.

as for whether or not our entire universe could exist within a black hole, some theories certainly allow this! this idea actually relates to your next set of questions concerning the dimensionality of the universe. because of the way space and time are compressed past the event horizon, you loose a dimension of what we would perceive as time once you cross it because past that point, the only way you can go is down towards and around the singularity. we could all be falling towards a singularity, but we cannot perceive it because its position relative to our own is along a dimension we no longer have access to because of the compression of space-time.

it may actually be that we live in a highly curled and knotted, 1D universe, which would imply that the position and time of every event would have a unique position along this knotted universe. it's a similar idea to drawing a picture without ever picking up your pencil. the end result is a two dimensional image, but it is composed of a single twisted 1D line, so you can uniquely specify any point in the image by giving how far along the line you must travel from the start. because of how the picture is drawn there are only certain locations you could exist within it (specifically, wherever the line is), which directly implies a quantization of space. indeed we do see this in the lab and on the chalk board because of the existence of the Plank Length (which i detailed earlier in the thread), so the hypothesis is compelling in my opinion.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#290 - 2012-03-06 01:03:31 UTC
Summarize scientifically Human Stupidity

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#291 - 2012-03-06 11:22:44 UTC
Its all lies, god created the earth and the people.

Adam and eve was real.

Deal with it, we have enough proof
Souvera Corvus
Buena Vista Social Club.
#292 - 2012-03-06 11:34:09 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Its all lies, god created the earth and the people.

Adam and eve was real.

Deal with it, we have enough proof


Are you running for the Presidency on a Republican ticket?

Mr Santorum, come on down.

(Thought you'd be Caldari)


Natasi01
Perkone
Caldari State
#293 - 2012-03-06 16:46:47 UTC
What is dark matter?
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#294 - 2012-03-06 16:57:49 UTC
Natasi01 wrote:
What is dark matter?


a good question! i discuss this somewhat in post #218 of this thread. the long story short is that when we measure the motion of galactic and extra galactic objects, our current theories of gravitation fail to accurately predict it. however, if we add additional matter that we have not yet observed, it works "perfectly". there have been many attempts to produce mathematically consistent models that predict this motion without dark matter, but they have, in general, failed. our observations have allowed us to make various constraints on the properties of dark matter, and even produce maps of where it should be in the universe. with this information we have been able to create experiments, like DRIFT, which should be able to detect a dark matter interaction, though no definite evidence of such an interaction has yet to found.
Natasi01
Perkone
Caldari State
#295 - 2012-03-06 19:24:47 UTC
Tsadkiel wrote:
Natasi01 wrote:
What is dark matter?


a good question!


huh, okey. thank you.
Are there any theories of it's actual content?
Last year I remember there where a lot in the news about CERN and their accelerator..and it had something to do with dark matter, what was that all about?

Jeyson Vicious
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#296 - 2012-03-07 06:07:35 UTC
Ive always wondered: when it comes to space propulsion and carrying fuel - why couldnt you make an engine out of a big spring? It could be coiled and then released sending the ship forward. Then electrical power and hydraulics could wind it back up and spring it again.

It seems like you could do it over and over, easily using potential energy to go faster and faster. Or maybe I don't get the real math / concept of how a spring works. (I don't... :)
Jeyson Vicious
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#297 - 2012-03-07 06:17:24 UTC
Tsadkiel wrote:
Natasi01 wrote:
What is dark matter?


a good question! i discuss this somewhat in post #218 of this thread. the long story short is that when we measure the motion of galactic and extra galactic objects, our current theories of gravitation fail to accurately predict it. however, if we add additional matter that we have not yet observed, it works "perfectly". there have been many attempts to produce mathematically consistent models that predict this motion without dark matter, but they have, in general, failed. our observations have allowed us to make various constraints on the properties of dark matter, and even produce maps of where it should be in the universe. with this information we have been able to create experiments, like DRIFT, which should be able to detect a dark matter interaction, though no definite evidence of such an interaction has yet to found.


I've always wondered why they don't just think there is a lot matter we don't see. Dim stars, planets, black holes.

Speaking of black holes - do you think it's strange that they aren't anchored in space (meaning if they are at the center of galaxies, and galaxies move)? I was wikipediaing them and saw that they think there may be a thing called an ergosphere which is like a buldge in the direction of rotation. Seems strange that things that defy physics would do normal things like that. Just interesting.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#298 - 2012-03-07 08:34:58 UTC
Tsadkiel wrote:
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
Ok, I have a question. er, questions.

(not reading all these pages so sorry if its been asked)

I'm on a doomed vessel traveling into a black hole.
OR
I'm on a planet that is about to be pulled into a black hole.
OR
pretty much anything where i fly screaming and cursing into a black hole.....


How is this going to work out for me? Of course I'm about to die, but do I actually feel myself getting ripped apart? Does time slow down and it takes an eternity for me to die the most painful possible death? how long could the perception of my death be? do i just get squished pretty fast before the real crazy stuff starts? Does physics just break down and my brain isn't capable of functioning to a degree that I'd be cognizant ?

separate points of order

could we all be falling into a black hole right now and not even know it? could the entire universe actually exist inside of a black hole? what is a black hole outside of a super-dense mass that 'dents' space/time? why is it a singularity can seem like such a simple concept but be so impossibly complex? can they really be gateways to other places, dimensions, realities or hell with an eye-less Sam Neill?

some people were telling me the entire universe is actually 2 dimensional, we just happen to experience a 3d projected effect of it. what the hell is that all about? does this have anything to do with black holes?

thank you in advance for your answers, these are important and pressing questions that we all should be more informed on. Especially considering our most assured and imminent horrible screaming apocalypse death at the hands of a rogue black hole.


oh man, i love Sam Neil and that movie :3 Event Horizon was great! i'm totally watching it as soon as i get home now heheheh.

ok so first paragraph appears to be all about Death by black holes :3 the technical term for this is Spaghettification. and no, i'm not making this up! the gravitational force acting on an object is directly related to the distance between the two bodies in question and their masses. this means that there is a very slight difference between the force of gravity acting on the hair on your head compared to that acting on your toes. we don't usually notice this because on earth that difference is astronomically small. but near a black hole is another story... here, the difference in the gravitational forces acting on different parts of your body is significant, and this difference increases more and more as you approach the hole.

if you are falling in feet first, eventually the force difference between your head and your toes will be enough to break the molecular bonds holding your midsection together, and you will snap in half. your torso and your legs will continue to fall and the force differences will continue to increase, eventually snapping you in half at the knees and chest. as you continue to fall this process continues on and on, until you are just a single stream of atoms, then a single stream of subatomic particles, and then just energy. the time it takes for this to occur again, depends on your reference frame, but an observer outside the horizon would never actually see you cross it.

as for whether or not our entire universe could exist within a black hole, some theories certainly allow this! this idea actually relates to your next set of questions concerning the dimensionality of the universe. because of the way space and time are compressed past the event horizon, you loose a dimension of what we would perceive as time once you cross it because past that point, the only way you can go is down towards and around the singularity. we could all be falling towards a singularity, but we cannot perceive it because its position relative to our own is along a dimension we no longer have access to because of the compression of space-time.

it may actually be that we live in a highly curled and knotted, 1D universe, which would imply that the position and time of every event would have a unique position along this knotted universe. it's a similar idea to drawing a picture without ever picking up your pencil. the end result is a two dimensional image, but it is composed of a single twisted 1D line, so you can uniquely specify any point in the image by giving how far along the line you must travel from the start. because of how the picture is drawn there are only certain locations you could exist within it (specifically, wherever the line is), which directly implies a quantization of space. indeed we do see this in the lab and on the chalk board because of the existence of the Plank Length (which i detailed earlier in the thread), so the hypothesis is compelling in my opinion.


wow, good answers. except you missed the most important one.

so, am I going to be feeling this? or will i be all 'quantum entangled silly-string theories' upstairs and have no ability to perceive the tidal forces ripping me apart at the knees, chest, and probably other unmentionable areas?
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#299 - 2012-03-07 17:10:00 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
Tsadkiel wrote:
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
Ok, I have a question. er, questions.

(not reading all these pages so sorry if its been asked)

I'm on a doomed vessel traveling into a black hole.
OR
I'm on a planet that is about to be pulled into a black hole.
OR
pretty much anything where i fly screaming and cursing into a black hole.....


How is this going to work out for me? Of course I'm about to die, but do I actually feel myself getting ripped apart? Does time slow down and it takes an eternity for me to die the most painful possible death? how long could the perception of my death be? do i just get squished pretty fast before the real crazy stuff starts? Does physics just break down and my brain isn't capable of functioning to a degree that I'd be cognizant ?

separate points of order

could we all be falling into a black hole right now and not even know it? could the entire universe actually exist inside of a black hole? what is a black hole outside of a super-dense mass that 'dents' space/time? why is it a singularity can seem like such a simple concept but be so impossibly complex? can they really be gateways to other places, dimensions, realities or hell with an eye-less Sam Neill?

some people were telling me the entire universe is actually 2 dimensional, we just happen to experience a 3d projected effect of it. what the hell is that all about? does this have anything to do with black holes?

thank you in advance for your answers, these are important and pressing questions that we all should be more informed on. Especially considering our most assured and imminent horrible screaming apocalypse death at the hands of a rogue black hole.


oh man, i love Sam Neil and that movie :3 Event Horizon was great! i'm totally watching it as soon as i get home now heheheh.

ok so first paragraph appears to be all about Death by black holes :3 the technical term for this is Spaghettification. and no, i'm not making this up! the gravitational force acting on an object is directly related to the distance between the two bodies in question and their masses. this means that there is a very slight difference between the force of gravity acting on the hair on your head compared to that acting on your toes. we don't usually notice this because on earth that difference is astronomically small. but near a black hole is another story... here, the difference in the gravitational forces acting on different parts of your body is significant, and this difference increases more and more as you approach the hole.

if you are falling in feet first, eventually the force difference between your head and your toes will be enough to break the molecular bonds holding your midsection together, and you will snap in half. your torso and your legs will continue to fall and the force differences will continue to increase, eventually snapping you in half at the knees and chest. as you continue to fall this process continues on and on, until you are just a single stream of atoms, then a single stream of subatomic particles, and then just energy. the time it takes for this to occur again, depends on your reference frame, but an observer outside the horizon would never actually see you cross it.

as for whether or not our entire universe could exist within a black hole, some theories certainly allow this! this idea actually relates to your next set of questions concerning the dimensionality of the universe. because of the way space and time are compressed past the event horizon, you loose a dimension of what we would perceive as time once you cross it because past that point, the only way you can go is down towards and around the singularity. we could all be falling towards a singularity, but we cannot perceive it because its position relative to our own is along a dimension we no longer have access to because of the compression of space-time.

it may actually be that we live in a highly curled and knotted, 1D universe, which would imply that the position and time of every event would have a unique position along this knotted universe. it's a similar idea to drawing a picture without ever picking up your pencil. the end result is a two dimensional image, but it is composed of a single twisted 1D line, so you can uniquely specify any point in the image by giving how far along the line you must travel from the start. because of how the picture is drawn there are only certain locations you could exist within it (specifically, wherever the line is), which directly implies a quantization of space. indeed we do see this in the lab and on the chalk board because of the existence of the Plank Length (which i detailed earlier in the thread), so the hypothesis is compelling in my opinion.


wow, good answers. except you missed the most important one.

so, am I going to be feeling this? or will i be all 'quantum entangled silly-string theories' upstairs and have no ability to perceive the tidal forces ripping me apart at the knees, chest, and probably other unmentionable areas?



well, that depends on a couple things. specifically your position and your orientation when this starts to occur. if you are outside the event horizon, yes, you will feel it. if you are past the event horizon you would only feel it if you were falling in head first. you wouldn't feel it past the event horizon if you fall in feet first
Tsadkiel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#300 - 2012-03-07 17:12:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsadkiel
Natasi01 wrote:
Tsadkiel wrote:
Natasi01 wrote:
What is dark matter?


a good question!


huh, okey. thank you.
Are there any theories of it's actual content?
Last year I remember there where a lot in the news about CERN and their accelerator..and it had something to do with dark matter, what was that all about?



yes an no. we have theoretical constraints on the properties of dark matter, but it isn't anything we have ever encountered before. it is literally a new form a matter.

CERN makes many, MANY announcements. do you have a link to the article you are specifically interested in? if so, i would be happy to comment on it =D