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Returning player and blue wrecks
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Josef Djugashvilis
#1 - 2012-03-03 01:46:38 UTC
I am now aware (as a recently returned player) that wrecks can be turned blue to make them available to all.
Can they be used for target practice? would this make you a fair target to the original owner or, even worse, upset Concord?
I have been given conflicting advice on this.

Thanks.

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-03-03 02:10:57 UTC
Since they are blue they no longer belong to anyone, I highly doubt shooting them would incur the wrath of concord since they basically don't have an owner. I don't understand why you would want to shoot them anyway.

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Utsen Dari
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-03-03 04:01:04 UTC
Anything that will trigger the wrath of CONCORD when shot will first throw up a dialogue box saying "are you REALLY sure you want to proceed with this dangerous action?!" So if you're unsure about a particular object you can just open fire and see if you get the warning.

There's an option to never show this dialogue box again though; if you clicked that option before, you won't get the helpful warning anymore unless you go into the ESC options and re-enable it.
Josef Djugashvilis
#4 - 2012-03-03 09:14:36 UTC
Thanks for the replies.

I just like to know what is, and what is not allowed.
The more I know about the game mechanics, the better I will be.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-03-03 11:10:56 UTC
Want target practise, go do a mission or 2. Best way to test weapons is on life, moving targets

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-03-03 13:59:19 UTC
Another good target practice range is asteroid belt (can be found in almost every system). Go to 0.8 solar system, right-click in space, "Asteroid belts", choose whatever you like and warp to 0m. If there are no rats, change asteroid belt. You can also roughly manage the difficulty level by selecting solar system with particular security status (note: difficulty level descriptions are for new players):

0.8 - easy, 1-2 ships per spawn, blowing up even when you stare at them long enough with scary look, laughable bounties
0.7 - quite easy, 1-2 ships per spawn, watch out, moderate bounties
0.6 - quite hard, 2-4 ships per spawn, slight chance of losing a ship, nice bounties
0.5 - hard, 2-5 ships per spawn, you may lose a ship, high bounties
0.4-0.1 - that's lowsec, don't go there yet, very high bounties
0.0 - that's nullsec, as above, no bounties

Please, keep in mind there are other players on asteroid belts (miners). They usually sleep or read a book, so try not to make too much noise. When you kill rats, loot their wrecks if you like and abandon them, so ratters can clean up this mess later.

Rats are those red crosses. Don't shoot at miners, even if they are yellow. CONCORD don't like it very much and you won't like their response.

There might be already a ratter on those belts. In that case, change the solar system or convo him and say you are a new player and you want to practice a bit. Offer him your wrecks. If he's ok, he will leave you in peace and maybe even give an advise or two. If he's writing some strange looking letters, he's Russian - write "ysvinyte, ya ne panimayu russkiy yasyk" (or "извините, я не понимаю русский язык" if you have some russian letters in a drawer) and change the solar system, unless you know russian language.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#7 - 2012-03-03 14:54:44 UTC
I can't believe you just told someone not to shoot at miners. That is literally the worst thing you could ever say to a new player and you should be ashamed.
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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-03-03 15:26:16 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I can't believe you just told someone not to shoot at miners. That is literally the worst thing you could ever say to a new player and you should be ashamed.

You missed the logic sense in my post. The goal is to practice shooting. Opening fire at miners will prevent that (CONCORD in 0.8 will show up in an instant).

"Don't shoot at" != "You should never shoot at" in this case.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#9 - 2012-03-04 14:17:40 UTC
Suicide ganking sounds like pretty good practice to me.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#10 - 2012-03-04 17:25:51 UTC
Xerces Ynx wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I can't believe you just told someone not to shoot at miners. That is literally the worst thing you could ever say to a new player and you should be ashamed.

You missed the logic sense in my post. The goal is to practice shooting. Opening fire at miners will prevent that (CONCORD in 0.8 will show up in an instant).

"Don't shoot at" != "You should never shoot at" in this case.


You can still scam those rocks, though.
This will give a nice global (or at least grid-wide message) which will cause any miner present to soil his pants.... or at least those who ARE awake.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#11 - 2012-03-04 17:55:43 UTC
Xerces Ynx wrote:

0.8 - easy, 1-2 ships per spawn, blowing up even when you stare at them long enough with scary look, laughable bounties
0.7 - quite easy, 1-2 ships per spawn, watch out, moderate bounties
0.6 - quite hard, 2-4 ships per spawn, slight chance of losing a ship, nice bounties
0.5 - hard, 2-5 ships per spawn, you may lose a ship, high bounties
0.4-0.1 - that's lowsec, don't go there yet, very high bounties
0.0 - that's nullsec, as above, no bounties



I think you meant the table to read as such:

0.8 - very easy, 1-2 ships per spawn, blowing up even when you stare at them long enough with scary look, laughable bounties
0.7 - easy, 1-2 ships per spawn, watch out, moderate bounties
0.6 - moderately easy, 2-4 ships per spawn, slight chance of losing a ship, nice bounties
0.5 - moderately hard , 2-5 ships per spawn, you may lose a ship, high bounties
0.4-0.1 - that's lowsec, don't go there just yet, rats are harder as you go lower, but the bounties get larger too
0.0 - that's nullsec, extremely hard but the rats have ridiculously high bounties

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Xerces Ynx
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-03-04 18:13:43 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
This will give a nice global (or at least grid-wide message) which will cause any miner present to soil his pants.... or at least those who ARE awake.

From what I've seen so far, being yellow and showing up on a belt (in a pity destroyer) is enough to scare away most miners ;)


Velicitia wrote:
0.0 - that's nullsec, extremely hard but the rats have ridiculously high bounties

Huh? I never got any bounty for 0.0 rats... Maybe because I only killed those camping at gates. Have to check out the 0.0 belts then.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2012-03-04 18:23:01 UTC
Xerces Ynx wrote:
Nerath Naaris wrote:
This will give a nice global (or at least grid-wide message) which will cause any miner present to soil his pants.... or at least those who ARE awake.

From what I've seen so far, being yellow and showing up on a belt (in a pity destroyer) is enough to scare away most miners ;)


Velicitia wrote:
0.0 - that's nullsec, extremely hard but the rats have ridiculously high bounties

Huh? I never got any bounty for 0.0 rats... Maybe because I only killed those camping at gates. Have to check out the 0.0 belts then.



yeah, nullsec rats are something like 1-1.5 million (or more, can't remember) for a BS... and 1-3 will spawn in a belt...

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