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Heavy Assault Missile Launchers have become Assault Missile Launchers
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#21 - 2012-02-29 21:38:22 UTC
^ its not prototype either.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#22 - 2012-02-29 21:56:32 UTC
This renaming is sh!t.

Why?

Easy, it's called memory patterns.


We won't recall differences between very slight differences but we recall diverse and unique labels. It's also the mechanism used in "branding" (you want to say you have a Gucci purse, not a "mildly experimental purse").

Therefore calling something "upgraded" says very little, they may as well say "meta 1".

Saying Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters is a very unique (and cool) name, you'll have higher chances to recall it's an enhanced AB than just flagging it with some generic adjective.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#23 - 2012-02-29 21:59:56 UTC
Light Missile Battery Launcher.

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Captain Kiro
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-02-29 22:18:36 UTC
As a relatively new/inexperienced player I can see what they're trying to accomplish is a noble goal, but its far, far too late. I'd much prefer something akin to the previously mentioned 'tag' system (and for pete's sake include searching the market for these modules in the tutorials). Best of both worlds - newer players (or those of us without Eidetic Memory trained to V IRL) find it easier to distinguish modules, older vets still know what they're talking about and get to keep their insane acronyms.
None ofthe Above
#25 - 2012-02-29 23:17:12 UTC
rodyas wrote:
^ its not prototype either.
disorientating


May I say, your sig is more and more full of win, rodyas.

Have to agree that this is another example of not thinking things through on CCP's part.

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#26 - 2012-02-29 23:59:15 UTC
Ioci wrote:
I'm sure there is a clear answer to this but I can't see it for all the dust in the way.



Heh.

I see what you did there.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#27 - 2012-03-01 02:57:17 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote:
In sad times like these I'm glad I have 13m sp in gunnery and don't have to deall with all this renaming crap.

Wait, gunnery is next I hear. They are going to have a field day with beam and pulse lasers; and all those XXXmm scout/gauss/prototype/compressed coil launchers? Kiss them goodbye, they will all be standardized.

As long as EFT changes its names, it's all good.

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Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#28 - 2012-03-01 03:21:37 UTC
People actually find this hard to understand? The butthurt forum dwellers are really scraping the bottom of the barrel today.

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Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
#29 - 2012-03-01 14:28:26 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Light Missile Battery Launcher.


So, its a Launcher that launches Light Missile Batteries? Interesting...
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#30 - 2012-03-01 14:35:15 UTC
Valentyn3 wrote:
People actually find this hard to understand?



Is there any logic to the renaming of the prop mods that you can see that would make it intuitive?

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OmniBeton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-03-01 15:35:39 UTC
From my IT experience : don't change the naming conventions in already running application. As stupid as naming may look after a while, during years of using it customers got used to it, learned it and became confortable with it. if you change it - you turn your customers into bunch of headless chickens for a while :)
Artemis Ahab
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-03-01 17:08:26 UTC
Ardvaark Ratnik wrote:
Missile array... is that like a missile pod? That would be cool... Each array hold 5 missiles and you fire them all at one time. 15 second reload...


This! Macross Missile Massacre in my Eve? Yes, please! Big smile
Vigo Carpath
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-03-01 17:48:18 UTC
is this the "Change" Obama was talking about?
Sturmwolke
#34 - 2012-03-01 20:16:07 UTC
Heavy Rocket Launchers - Just do it!™ ... you know you want to.
TR4D3R4LT
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-03-02 00:08:49 UTC
I commented Sisi thread about certain name changes when they werent in TQ yet...

Why go half-way and not embrace the "easy to understand" naming formula all on.

"Launcher cruiser light meta xx"
"Launcher cruiser assault meta xx"
"Launcher cruiser heavy meta xx"

See? Everyone knows wtf it is, where it is supposed to be used and wtf it uses as ammo. Bonus points for simple meta level view instead experimental, advanced, caldari or pray tell, with some modules aberration like Estamel's. If you really want to keep the "silly" names of old, have them as "tag" at the end of the name, it's not like we're short of bits for naming things?


To end I just copypaste lazily from that post;

Heck just imagine how smooth talking about them would be;

"Why this change happened?"
"Because Recon ship, Force, Caldari."

and everyone would know exactly what the meme is about.

Signed;
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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#36 - 2012-03-02 16:55:21 UTC
TR4D3R4LT wrote:
I commented Sisi thread about certain name changes when they werent in TQ yet...

Why go half-way and not embrace the "easy to understand" naming formula all on.

"Launcher cruiser light meta xx"
"Launcher cruiser assault meta xx"
"Launcher cruiser heavy meta xx"


Whats with the "cruiser" in everything?

You may need to break this down for ccp even a bit more. We should explain that:
"Torpedo launcher meta 04" should actually be the meta 4 torp launcher and not the meta 2 rocket launcher.

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Thelron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-03-02 17:08:11 UTC
Artemis Ahab wrote:
Ardvaark Ratnik wrote:
Missile array... is that like a missile pod? That would be cool... Each array hold 5 missiles and you fire them all at one time. 15 second reload...


This! Macross Missile Massacre in my Eve? Yes, please! Big smile


Can it also coincide with missiles getting engine trails (and then ensure that they do in fact follow the Macross "mis-guided missiles" flight patterns)?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#38 - 2012-03-02 17:30:24 UTC
Ager Agemo wrote:
Ioci wrote:
I'm sure there is a clear answer to this but I can't see it for all the dust in the way.




rename to Light Missile Launcher Array

there fixed.


This is exactly, precisely, what the final name should be.

It is easy to understand and search for, and completely intuitive.

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TR4D3R4LT
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-03-02 18:44:47 UTC  |  Edited by: TR4D3R4LT
Cearain wrote:
Whats with the "cruiser" in everything?

You may need to break this down for ccp even a bit more. We should explain that:
"Torpedo launcher meta 04" should actually be the meta 4 torp launcher and not the meta 2 rocket launcher.



To separate them from

"Launcher Frigate Light missile Meta xx"

Aka the pinpoint of whole issue, where we have ONE unique case where two weapon systems, aka light missile launchers(frigate) and assault missile launchers (cruiser) use same ammo (light missile.)

EDIT: Oh and just a reminder, this was all well and fine as long as there were not HAM's, those werent rolled in back when missiles as system were designed. They were later added by CCP to "bridge" the short range cap between rockets and (nerfed) torpedo range. Sad case in point how change supposed to fix things end up causing confusion due to way it is implemented. They could have called them *anything* else then HAM's but noo.
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