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Mining missions: Banidine, Augumene, Mercium, Lyavite, Geodite and more...

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-26 04:45:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
If you've ever lost mission ore after mining it, you likely discovered (much to your dismay) that you can't buy that stuff very easily in contracts. On the other hand, if you had some left over after completing a mission, you likely found that it was very difficult to sell.

I'm aiming to change this, but I can't do it without your help. I'm currently buying these mission ores for 10 isk per m3 (about 1/10th of the value of veldspar) in Aufay (near Dodixie, Gallente space). I'll be putting the ores I have up on contracts for 25 isk per m3, a slight markup to help pay for my time and the contract fees. I won't be making much profit on this, I'm just trying to help you. So if you need a particular mission ore in Aufay, you may be able to buy it from one of my contracts. If the contract contains too much, just send me an evemail that you'd like to resell it, set up a contract, and I'll take back all that you don't use for the same price I sold it to you, 25 isk per m3.

I'd like to expand to more areas, hopefully a good mining mission system near each of the 4 major trade hubs. If you can tell me which systems near these hubs are the best for mining missions, that would be great. Also, I'll gladly accept ores from other areas around highsec if you want to set up some contracts to me. And if you contact me in-game, you can ask me to check and see if I have any of the ore you need near where you are. If I get enough of a supply, I'll be able to pass these ores out much more easily.

So sell your mission ores to me! Every bit helps!

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Broken Thoughts
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-26 17:15:44 UTC
people do mining missions?
Ameron Phinard
#3 - 2012-02-26 17:26:37 UTC
Broken Thoughts wrote:
people do mining missions?


Depending on the current market, Mining Missions are better IPH than straight out mining. But don't expect miners to be that clever.

They're also useful to grind standings on non-combat characters. I have a couple indy characters that would be hard pressed to handle a L2 security mission but would sail through a L4 mining mission.
Broken Thoughts
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-02-26 18:53:24 UTC
what have you done?
dont encourage miners to get away from mining FFS.
because of the current min prices, i cant even fly drakes for free anymore. Cry
last thing we need is miners doing mining missions.
let this thread succumb into the depths of the forums ASAP.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-02-28 02:33:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Broken Thoughts wrote:
what have you done?
dont encourage miners to get away from mining FFS.
because of the current min prices, i cant even fly drakes for free anymore. Cry
last thing we need is miners doing mining missions.
let this thread succumb into the depths of the forums ASAP.


Mineral prices are up because Incursion made a gigantic isk waterfall with no drain to counteract the flow. It has nothing to do with miners, in fact more than half of the total minerals going into the EVE market are from sources other than mining. And more than half of the minerals coming from mining are from bots, which aren't likely to run missions when they could be mining ore instead.

If you want more miners lowering mineral prices, then support things that make life easier and more bearable for anyone mining.

It is easy to fall into the trap of thinking of players as various set types, such as "miners", but every player in EVE is always free to choose their own path. Every character in EVE is a potential miner. You want more mining being done? Advocate for changes that make mining more fun, more profitable, easier, and with a greater reward for the amount of risk.

I'm trying to make life easier for miners, so I'm helping you. My service won't make them run more mining missions, it'll make them run less. Instead of failing a mission due to ore loss, people will pass it and gain standings rather than lose them. People don't run mining missions for fun, they run them for standings, because all their SP is in mining and they can't run other level 3 or 4 missions. Think before you condemn, please.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Verocity
8 Virtues
#6 - 2012-02-28 03:29:50 UTC
Broken Thoughts wrote:
people do mining missions?


Yup and I make 50mil/hr doing so with my two alts. About 21k LP + 8mil ISK an hour. Mining Pyroxeres is close but not as profitable.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-28 03:38:02 UTC
Verocity wrote:
Broken Thoughts wrote:
people do mining missions?


Yup and I make 50mil/hr doing so with my two alts. About 21k LP + 8mil ISK an hour. Mining Pyroxeres is close but not as profitable.


That can work for some people, if you can get a good return on your loyalty points. It's also not something for anyone to worry about, as the loyalty point market only works because it is convoluted enough for most people to overlook it entirely, or just fail miserably at it. Simple economics will show that it's far too small a market opportunity to have a significant impact on the larger market's mineral income.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Mai Banck
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-02-28 10:21:52 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
If you've ever lost mission ore after mining it, you likely discovered (much to your dismay) that you can't buy that stuff very easily in contracts. On the other hand, if you had some left over after completing a mission, you likely found that it was very difficult to sell.

I'm aiming to change this, but I can't do it without your help. I'm currently buying these mission ores for 10 isk per m3 (about 1/10th of the value of veldspar) in Aufay (near Dodixie, Gallente space). I'll be putting the ores I have up on contracts for 25 isk per m3, a slight markup to help pay for my time and the contract fees. I won't be making much profit on this, I'm just trying to help you. So if you need a particular mission ore in Aufay, you may be able to buy it from one of my contracts. If the contract contains too much, just send me an evemail that you'd like to resell it, set up a contract, and I'll take back all that you don't use for the same price I sold it to you, 25 isk per m3.

I'd like to expand to more areas, hopefully a good mining mission system near each of the 4 major trade hubs. If you can tell me which systems near these hubs are the best for mining missions, that would be great. Also, I'll gladly accept ores from other areas around highsec if you want to set up some contracts to me. And if you contact me in-game, you can ask me to check and see if I have any of the ore you need near where you are. If I get enough of a supply, I'll be able to pass these ores out much more easily.

So sell your mission ores to me! Every bit helps!


Doesn't this mean, that in order to sell you these ores, one has to fail a mission and take the standings hits.
All mining missions I have done sofar give exact the amount ore you need to complete the mission.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-02-28 10:34:23 UTC
Mai Banck wrote:
Doesn't this mean, that in order to sell you these ores, one has to fail a mission and take the standings hits.
All mining missions I have done sofar give exact the amount ore you need to complete the mission.


If you partially complete the mission and are called away for a long time, the mission may respawn and you may not only be able to mine a full amount in addition to what you have previously mined, but you will be required to mine it all to complete the mission. Thus you will have leftover ore.

On the other hand, if your ship carrying the ore is destroyed, or your jetcan pops, or someone steals some of your ore, you can have the mission complete once you have finished mining but you will not be able to turn it in until you acquire some more ore. Normally this means you must wait until after downtime so that it respawns, but you can also trade these ores from other players.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Celgar Thurn
Department 10
#10 - 2012-02-28 17:23:53 UTC
The Mittani and mining is like oil & water. They don't mix. The Mittani is a supporter of the suicide ganking community. If you are a miner you won't be voting for The Mittani. Nothing personal of course. I'm sure he's a good bloke and posts by the Goons always make me smile or laugh.

PS .Not a troll. I read your 'signature' and had to print the above. Oops
Nekopyat
Nee-Co
#11 - 2012-02-28 19:48:33 UTC
Broken Thoughts wrote:
people do mining missions?


Actually, I used to do them quite a bit before I switched regions (there are no high-sec L4 mining agents in my current one).

Some of the L3 ones were actually pretty good, including a couple that gave T2 drone salvage. They also had a fun mix of mining while under NPC attack.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-02-29 00:19:40 UTC
Celgar Thurn wrote:
The Mittani and mining is like oil & water. They don't mix. The Mittani is a supporter of the suicide ganking community. If you are a miner you won't be voting for The Mittani. Nothing personal of course. I'm sure he's a good bloke and posts by the Goons always make me smile or laugh.

PS .Not a troll. I read your 'signature' and had to print the above. Oops


As Mittens and several others have explained, the hunter would protect their hunting grounds so that they can hunt in those grounds. What is best for the prey and what is best for the predator are usually approximately the same.

Nekopyat wrote:
Broken Thoughts wrote:
people do mining missions?


Actually, I used to do them quite a bit before I switched regions (there are no high-sec L4 mining agents in my current one).

Some of the L3 ones were actually pretty good, including a couple that gave T2 drone salvage. They also had a fun mix of mining while under NPC attack.


Unfortunately the level 4 missions are all mining and no fun. The level 3s are the best.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Ron Livingston
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-03-02 16:10:56 UTC
OP is really dumb.

Point 1: Buying for 10 and selling for 25 is 150% profits... which is really good. So you are trying to make money off people and are doing nobody a favor.

Point 2: How can people sell to your orders without not completing their own missions. Unless they`re trying to mine the ore for sale, and if thats the case, why would they sell it to you for 10 when they can sell it for 25?
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-03-04 07:00:48 UTC
Ron Livingston wrote:
OP is really dumb.

Point 1: Buying for 10 and selling for 25 is 150% profits... which is really good. So you are trying to make money off people and are doing nobody a favor.

Point 2: How can people sell to your orders without not completing their own missions. Unless they`re trying to mine the ore for sale, and if thats the case, why would they sell it to you for 10 when they can sell it for 25?


Point 1: Veldspar sells for more than 100 isk per m3. That means I'm selling these ores for much less than the time spent mining them is worth. I buy them for less than I sell because I intend to store up a lot of excess. This is how businesses work (even non-profit ones) and if you don't understand this, either take an economics class or drop the subject.

Point 2: I'm not going to discuss this if you're too lazy to read my posts.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."