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Wtf has jita competition died?

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Verocity
8 Virtues
#21 - 2012-03-01 22:13:23 UTC
Wow - I thought it was quite strange too but yea, my orders actually stay at the top (or bottom) for a little while. Amazing and fantastic.

*clap* CCP
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#22 - 2012-03-01 22:43:47 UTC
CCP confirmed in the devblog thread that they did look for market bots in the latest sweep, but no hard number on how many. I hope they follow up; it's been a good day for us human traders everywhere.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#23 - 2012-03-01 23:59:12 UTC
It's good to see some of the bot's gone and the .01 that goes with it but in truth there is no entrepreneurial mechanic in EVE. There is room for competition but we can't make a product better than it is. We can't create a market for a manufactured or even farmed module or ship if the stats say it's fail. We saw how quick the capitalism aspect of the Tier 3 battlecruiser came and went because it was a base T1 mineral product.

The last true venture market for EVE was T3 and that was years ago. Where people had to procure from scratch and try and command the markets. If CCP end up wiping out all the bots it may only serve to expose just how controlled the markets really are.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#24 - 2012-03-02 00:03:28 UTC
What does that have to do with fighting a computer over .01 isk every 3 min?
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#25 - 2012-03-02 00:11:44 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
What does that have to do with fighting a computer over .01 isk every 3 min?


.01 ISK isnt about profit and capitalism in EVE markets. it's about control of them. While removing the control mechanics is fine, the core problem still remains. Bots every 3 minutes gone will allow people to compete but there is no lack of that now, even without bots. The issue is in the markets truly available.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#26 - 2012-03-02 00:29:32 UTC
I think you missed the point of this thread. We're happy that one major problem has been visibly dealt with, even just a bit. We're not looking to solve every problem that the eve economy has by banning bots. If you want to whine about the problems therein, go start a thread about it. The rest of us will enjoy this mini-victory in the mean time.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#27 - 2012-03-02 01:00:56 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
I think you missed the point of this thread. We're happy that one major problem has been visibly dealt with, even just a bit. We're not looking to solve every problem that the eve economy has by banning bots. If you want to whine about the problems therein, go start a thread about it. The rest of us will enjoy this mini-victory in the mean time.



Gettinsome wrote:
Whats been going on, I wake up this morning and I have orders actually filled, Noticed there's been a **** load less 0.1 iskin. Is it a holiday or have the bots been silenced?

If the latter we should make it a holiday



Original thread is about filling orders. Sorry if I derailed your hi-jacking Goon Jr. It was a broader discussion on a similar aspect of EVE, not a whine. Sorry again to complicate your linear thought process. I wasn't aware CCP gave you a forum badge.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#28 - 2012-03-02 01:03:35 UTC
Your reading comprehension is a bit lacking, but it's what I expect from a troll account.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#29 - 2012-03-02 01:09:36 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Your reading comprehension is a bit lacking, but it's what I expect from a troll account.


Fine, lets talk about Bots, Goon Jr.

FA, Provi Loop. it's not about the crime it's about getting caught now isnt it? In the infamous words of the trailer, I was there ************.

Care to keep going?
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#30 - 2012-03-02 01:10:22 UTC
I noticed that Hek was much quieter than normal yesterday...And I liked that just fine! (Now buy my other character's Domination Large Shield Booster someone, kthxbai.)

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#31 - 2012-03-02 01:18:30 UTC
Skydell wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Your reading comprehension is a bit lacking, but it's what I expect from a troll account.


Fine, lets talk about Bots, Goon Jr.

FA, Provi Loop. it's not about the crime it's about getting caught now isnt it? In the infamous words of the trailer, I was there ************.

Care to keep going?

Perhaps you should look at corp histories and corp alliance dates before running your insanely uneducated mouth. But please, feel free to sperg further and continue to look dumb.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#32 - 2012-03-02 01:24:40 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Skydell wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Your reading comprehension is a bit lacking, but it's what I expect from a troll account.


Fine, lets talk about Bots, Goon Jr.

FA, Provi Loop. it's not about the crime it's about getting caught now isnt it? In the infamous words of the trailer, I was there ************.

Care to keep going?

Perhaps you should look at corp histories and corp alliance dates before running your insanely uneducated mouth. But please, feel free to sperg further and continue to look dumb.


You put the patch on, wear it. Playing that noob crap with me won't cut it. Your Alliance is the product of bots just like all the rest. Just because you chose to show up at the party late doesn't change a damn thing.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#33 - 2012-03-02 01:31:12 UTC
Clearly all alliances are the products of botting. Roll

Yours too? You should really drop back to a noobcorp and put your money where your mouth is. Actually never mind, I just reported you and your alliance for botting. thanks for admitting it. Roll

Try again.
Kandreath
De Re Metallica
#34 - 2012-03-02 03:02:12 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I can't see any change in Rens so far. Maybe they aren't actually bots there or something.

But I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed on this one for sure. Smile


I have an alt in Rens too. I've not checked lately to see an impact - However the reason I chose Rens was because I didn't have to baby sit the orders. I recently tried some station trading at Jita and gave up as I really wasn't into the constant supervision. It would be interesting to give it a go again and see any difference.

One poster highlighted that if the change is due to the botters being banned, we should not allow it to return to what it was before.

Frankly, if it is the botters that had turned Jita into what it was, it would actually make me angry. Botters were stopping humans playing in Jita. Hopefully if this is the case CCP should be stomping harder on these guys. c'mon, it can't be that hard to spot them.

An alt spotted a suspected mining bot. The fact the toon was always on in the same system always mining random ore when +5% and +10% were not specially targeded. Plus wouldn't respond to chats or bumps. Was part of a NPC corp etc really looked sus.

I reported it... toon was still on most of the time. He did change corps but nothing more changed. Would've been nice to at least get some feedback on weather I was right or not.
Gettinsome
Dawn Trading
#35 - 2012-03-02 04:52:39 UTC
2 days later and I see a noticeable difference still in my orders not getting sniped anywhere near as much. strange how the jita local doesn't appear to be down. Could this mean that only a handful of these guys existed and they cause that much havoc or more of a case of more traders appearing almost instantly? If it is the result of bot bannings, cudos to CCP!

And I was about to throw in the towel lol...
OfBalance
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-03-02 05:04:38 UTC
Bot welp, best welp.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#37 - 2012-03-02 07:20:10 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Clearly all alliances are the products of botting. Roll

Yours too? You should really drop back to a noobcorp and put your money where your mouth is. Actually never mind, I just reported you and your alliance for botting. thanks for admitting it. Roll

Try again.


If you had any brains you would be on the floor playing with them. You admit in a cheesed attempt to avoid responsibility that I know more about your alliance than you do because of corp and alliance dates and when I call you out you spam GM with some rambling bullshit about me being a bot. All they need to do is look at my 16 hr a week login time to figure out I am no bot but you keep slinging that mud Goon Jr. It seems to give you some fals esteem.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-03-02 12:02:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
ITT people see whatever they want/expect to see

those who have been experiencing less competition recently 'x' up while those who had a harder time earning money stay silent in shame and CCP Sreegs tells us how 10 accounts were responsible for the efficiency of the Jita market.

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CCP Stillman
C C P
C C P Alliance
#39 - 2012-03-02 12:44:15 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
those who have bee experiencing less competition recently 'x' up while those who had a harder time earning money stay silent in shame and CCP Sreegs tells us how 10 accounts were responsible for the efficiency of the Jita market.


For reference, the full context of the numer of accounts can be found here:
CCP Sreegs' post

Just a random dude in Team Security.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#40 - 2012-03-02 12:55:08 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
I noticed that Hek was much quieter than normal yesterday...And I liked that just fine! (Now buy my other character's Domination Large Shield Booster someone, kthxbai.)



No one wants your lame booster, wastrel.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log