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KORVIN FOR CSM7 - the reasonable choice.

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Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#121 - 2012-03-01 02:37:26 UTC
What do you do in game besides flying Dramiels (and now Assault Frigates) and sitting in stations?
KoBapcTBo
Bad Balance
#122 - 2012-03-01 11:46:50 UTC  |  Edited by: KoBapcTBo
Supported.
Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#123 - 2012-03-01 11:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Korvin
Dez Affinity wrote:
What do you do in game besides flying Dramiels (and now Assault Frigates) and sitting in stations?

Obviously flying Drakes (and now new tier3 BC)

On a more serious note.
I was a leader of a small (600 ppl, 100 average online) 0.0 alliance for few years before Dominion.
When the sov system was changed the way it was no more interesting for me, I moved to low sec, but still have a lot of friends in Voodoo, RED, Blodbound - those alliances, that mostly consists of my old ally mates, still helping them in training and some operations.

Most of my time now I pay to the Eve Flight School - the Russian EVE-Uni like structure, commanding fleets there. We have a daily basis fleets, flying to random locations, no standings applied, killing everything and showing new players how to act in various fleet formats and situations. We roam everywhere, low-sec, WH, 0.0, depends on a mood and FC preferences.

Occasionally, I do a lot of other things, probably tried every profession possible in EVE during my long playing history.

Member of CSM 4&5 ... &8

DoraTheExplora Taft
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#124 - 2012-03-01 17:58:14 UTC
I'm voting for you because you're russian. That is all
Kugler
Triglavian Team
#125 - 2012-03-02 09:52:00 UTC
Supported.
Vander Zylen
The Solar Queen
#126 - 2012-03-02 13:59:17 UTC
Supported
Winternight Depression
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#127 - 2012-03-03 17:18:07 UTC
What do you think about wardec mechanics?
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#128 - 2012-03-03 18:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Snowflake Tem
Just thought you might like to know that you Vote Matched most highly to my choices.
I'm afraid I can't promise you my vote but my fuzzies were warmed by the similarities.

Well done and good luck with the rest of your campaign.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#129 - 2012-03-03 21:15:30 UTC
Korvin wrote:
Thank you for your questions.
Internet Lawyer wrote:
How do you feel about the current state of factional warfare?

What I had expected from FW when it was announced is not what I see now.
I had expected it to be a roleplaying PVP environment, scripted and managed by CCP stuff, with lots of events, in game history evolution, based on backstories, and players that could participate in the show.
The first thing I thought when it was announced was “Wow, where do they expect to find the stuff to support this?”.
The answer was trivial, they didn’t. We god a mix of unfinished wardec system with the unfinished missions system and a rejected prototype of sov warfare system.
What I want to ask CCP, is to define the goal that FW should achieve.
The way I see it – it’s a good ground for CCP events, CCP stuff could lead those armies on a pre-made script, having fun (I know, lots of CCPeer want to play EVE), evolving the background history with those players enjoying events.


Do you really think that top-down, formally scripted events have any place in Eve? Surely Eve's entire USP is that events are driven by the players in the sandbox, not by CCP leading the players around FacWar themeparks?

Quote:
The main restriction is that those FW events should be limited to FW and game backstories, and have no influence to the rest of the sandbox. It’s a tricky thing, considering the butterfly effect, but I believe CCP can manage this.


This, combined with your comments above, is a really troubling statement.

The day one part of Eve is deliberately set aside to "have no influence to the rest of the sandbox" is the day that Eve dies. Eve is explicitly designed (and marketed!) as an environment where everything is interconnected across the whole galaxy, from the depths of sovereign 0.0 and remotest wormhole to the jita 4-4 undock and the lowsec gatecamp. The idea of quarantining specific aspects of the game environment is what I'd expect from a wide eyed newbie who stumbled in here a week ago from TOR, not a long term player and supposedly serious CSM candidate to advocate.

The Butterfly Effect is something to be celebrated and encouraged, not feared and suppressed.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#130 - 2012-03-04 01:30:02 UTC
Winternight Depression wrote:
What do you think about wardec mechanics?

I think that the wardec system is broken at the moment, players or corporations can easily avoid it by leaving their corp/alliance.

The best way to prevent it in my opinion, is to assign the war not only to the top level (an alliance or a corporation), but to all levels at the same time. So when you wardec an alliance, every unit in it gets a wardec timer - 1 week. If the corporation leaves an alliance - that timer stays, and you still can shoot them. If player leaves the corporation, that timer also stays, so you still can shoot him.

This way no one would avoid war if they deserved it. If you want more safety - stay in NPC corp, and pay 11%.

Member of CSM 4&5 ... &8

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#131 - 2012-03-04 01:36:40 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:

The day one part of Eve is deliberately set aside to "have no influence to the rest of the sandbox" is the day that Eve dies.

That means that CCP EVENTS should not influence the rest of a sandbox. Not players, that participates there.
When it comes to the roleplaying part of EVE, that activity should be guided, moderated and somehow supported. Otherwise it would be ruined just for fun, as it allways happens. FW can be a good ground for the RP, if CCP would help those, who want to play their roles as a rebel slave ets.

Member of CSM 4&5 ... &8

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#132 - 2012-03-04 04:11:07 UTC
Snowflake Tem wrote:
Just thought you might like to know that you Vote Matched most highly to my choices.
I'm afraid I can't promise you my vote but my fuzzies were warmed by the similarities.

Well done and good luck with the rest of your campaign.

Thanks for your kind words.

Member of CSM 4&5 ... &8

Mikael deLock
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#133 - 2012-03-04 12:31:25 UTC
Supported
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#134 - 2012-03-04 22:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Scatim Helicon
Korvin wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:

The day one part of Eve is deliberately set aside to "have no influence to the rest of the sandbox" is the day that Eve dies.

That means that CCP EVENTS should not influence the rest of a sandbox. Not players, that participates there.
When it comes to the roleplaying part of EVE, that activity should be guided, moderated and somehow supported. Otherwise it would be ruined just for fun, as it allways happens. FW can be a good ground for the RP, if CCP would help those, who want to play their roles as a rebel slave ets.


All events in a sandbox should affect the rest of the sandbox, that's the whole point of a sandbox. Roleplayers and Factional Warfare participants don't need special treatment from Big Brother CCP to shield them from the rest of Eve and lead them on their own special little quarantined quests, and for you to suggest as much is deeply ignorant and patronising. CVA and Ushra'Khan in their glory days were able to mix it with the big boys in their own right, they didn't get special treatment from CCP, they didn't need 'guided, moderated and somehow supported' hand-holding from GMs and Devs to allow them to play out their roles of theocratic slaveholders or rebellious freedom fighters, they just got on with murdering each other on their own initiative, and because of it they earned their place in the unscripted, player-driven history of Eve.

What Roleplayers and Factional Warfare participants need from CCP is not special snowflake treatment, but the same things every other Eve player needs - interesting, rewarding game mechanics (particularly for lowsec, but also for whatever other areas of the game they occupy) which make them enthusiastic to log in and blow each other up. The Butterfly Effect should be encouraged whenever possible, because what makes Eve special is when non-scripted events take on a momentum of their own and spiral away in ways that nobody could have predicted.

For you to suggest otherwise, for you to want to undermine Eve's very nature by making specific corners of the universe immune to ripple effects, makes your viability as a CSM candidate extremely dubious.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#135 - 2012-03-04 22:20:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Korvin
Scatim Helicon wrote:

All events in a sandbox should affect the rest of the sandbox, that's the whole point of a sandbox.

So what your statement is that CCP events based on EVE backstory should affect the rest of the sendbox, including the nullsec sov holding alliances?
I don't think thats a good idea.

Or do you stand against any CCP ingame events?

Member of CSM 4&5 ... &8

StoneDwarf
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#136 - 2012-03-05 01:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneDwarf
If roleplayers want some action, they may get it always and everywhere. If you are absolutely lazy, you may join RedvBlue or become one of the Goner Monks(that guys even built a temple station somwhere in null sec! at the RA territory). THAT is called ROLEPLAY. Why CCP has to spent their time for what player have to do?
CCP still have so much other things to do, they even did not finished boosting minmatarshybrids!


P.S.
Supported.
Korvin
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
#137 - 2012-03-05 02:22:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Korvin
StoneDwarf wrote:
If roleplayers want some action, they may get it always and everywhere. If you are absolutely lazy, you may join RedvBlue or become one of the Goner Monks(that guys even built a temple station somwhere in null sec! at the RA territory). THAT is called ROLEPLAY. Why CCP has to spent their time for what player have to do?
CCP still have so much other things to do, they even did not finished boosting minmatarshybrids!


P.S.
Supported.

Well, first of all, they made a decision to add FW to the game.
The second decision they made were the returning of CCP live events.

The obvious thing is, that both decisions CCP already did could be merged in to benefit each other.

And yes, the first players group that would benefit from this are the RP crowd.

Member of CSM 4&5 ... &8

Skye Aurorae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#138 - 2012-03-05 07:06:14 UTC
Interestingly, based on a mathematical analysis of vote match data, Korvin is indeed a reasonable candidate.

But.... that same data shows me as the most reasonable candidate.

Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM! Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21 - oh well.

Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#139 - 2012-03-05 14:17:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Snowflake Tem
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Korvin wrote:
[quote=Scatim Helicon]
The day one part of Eve is deliberately set aside to "have no influence to the rest of the sandbox" is the day that Eve dies.



What Roleplayers and Factional Warfare participants need from CCP is not special snowflake treatment, but the same things every other Eve player needs - interesting, rewarding game mechanics (particularly for lowsec, but also for whatever other areas of the game they occupy) which make them enthusiastic to log in and blow each other up. The Butterfly Effect should be encouraged whenever possible, because what makes Eve special is when non-scripted events take on a momentum of their own and spiral away in ways that nobody could have predicted.



kk, I'll bite. If by "special snowflake treatment" you mean preferential nurturing I agree with you completely.
My argument always has been that the butterfly effect washes up on the shores of highsec but does not impact significantly upon it. When it does, we're stuck with it in perpetuity. CCP lead rp events suck because the RP dept is under-resourced and lack the tools to develop and iterate story-lines continually in response to player involvement.

I also believe that CSM6, 7 & 8 will not in any way influence CCP to improve the situation because The Mittani's priorities are different. Even if a RP candidate got in they would be sidelined while 'other stuff' got sorted out.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#140 - 2012-03-05 21:06:40 UTC
Korvin wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:

All events in a sandbox should affect the rest of the sandbox, that's the whole point of a sandbox.

So what your statement is that CCP events based on EVE backstory should affect the rest of the sendbox, including the nullsec sov holding alliances?
I don't think thats a good idea.

Or do you stand against any CCP ingame events?

I think that for CCP to make scripted hand-holding events integral to any part of Eve would basically be them throwing in the towel on the idea of the player-driven sandbox. The players write the stories here, not a CCP employee. Irregular or one-off events for specific reasons (to tie-in with some new expansion, or the recent drive to get the CCP staff actually playing eve and experience fleet combat the way the rest of us do, for example) would be acceptable.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.