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Ransom Unhonored

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Kavez Vek
Destructors United
#1 - 2012-03-01 06:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Kavez Vek
Thought I would give the heads up about a couple of pirates who were flying around Tintoh

Amber Thetawaves
Andrew Jackson Jihad

I paid the ransom, as the screenshot demonstrates. You've been warned not to pay. Here is the screenshot along with the killboard:

http://i42.tinypic.com/s658wj.jpg
http://mongsmarauders.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2688
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2012-03-01 06:41:49 UTC
Go down fighting, ransoms are a waste of time.
Kavez Vek
Destructors United
#3 - 2012-03-01 06:51:00 UTC
Gritz1 wrote:
Go down fighting, ransoms are a waste of time.


Turns out.
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2012-03-01 06:51:53 UTC
Kavez Vek wrote:
Gritz1 wrote:
Go down fighting, ransoms are a waste of time.


Turns out.


Wish I could of told you that ealier on P
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#5 - 2012-03-01 07:36:14 UTC
Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D

Hmmm

Kavez Vek
Destructors United
#6 - 2012-03-01 07:57:46 UTC
Darius III wrote:
Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D


I figured this would pertain even moreso to hi-sec people. The number of noobs, like me (which now I've learned how CONCORD doesn't act), is really large. If they build up a reputation for not ransoming, they actually lose money, potentially.
Dead Loss
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-03-01 09:01:53 UTC
233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#8 - 2012-03-01 12:24:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Spank
Dead Loss wrote:
233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh

Confirming everyone has all their ISK on one character . Nice smack attempt but it just makes you look ignorant.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-03-01 12:38:01 UTC
Dead Loss wrote:
233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh

I have never had more than 5000 ISK in my feather lite wallet, but a poor peasant is often still a happy one sir. You should feel ashamed for the nasty jestings.

Black Man with Goggles

Kazacy
BACKFIRE Squad
#10 - 2012-03-01 15:00:06 UTC
Kavez Vek wrote:
Darius III wrote:
Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D


I figured this would pertain even moreso to hi-sec people. The number of noobs, like me (which now I've learned how CONCORD doesn't act), is really large. If they build up a reputation for not ransoming, they actually lose money, potentially.


the answer it's easy: when the noobs find out why Concord not shooty, also the same noobs won't fall for the trick (or won't fall again), so basicaly you have no reason (except some stupid and costly "ehonour") to keep isk and release the ship. So as a basic rule don't pay ransoms in hisec and you will be fine.

P.S.
i almost forgot: also when you will ask for ransoms in hisec don't forget to pop the guy after he pays, the reason for this (except isk ofc) is his tears/rage, threats, fanmail and so on Big smile
Sir Lomax
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#11 - 2012-03-01 15:22:21 UTC
I can't believe missioners still shoot at ninja salvagers.
Kazacy
BACKFIRE Squad
#12 - 2012-03-01 15:25:32 UTC
Sir Lomax wrote:
I can't believe missioners still shoot at ninja salvagers.


Believe me they shoot the ninja; you must learn how to be very annoying and they will shoot you.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#13 - 2012-03-01 15:48:49 UTC
I shot a binman once and when he warped off to get his new ship, so did I. Funnily enough he didn't seem to think having a more even match was easy enough a kill for him.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-03-01 16:58:29 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
I shot a binman once and when he warped off to get his new ship, so did I. Funnily enough he didn't seem to think having a more even match was easy enough a kill for him.


You don't say... Lol
Kavez Vek
Destructors United
#15 - 2012-03-01 21:25:23 UTC
Kazacy wrote:
Kavez Vek wrote:
Darius III wrote:
Most hardcore Lowsec guys honor them, many don't. Last month I ransomed a Dominix for 2 million isk and honored it. I was in light tackle and the rats almost had me dead. He paid after I warped out :D


I figured this would pertain even moreso to hi-sec people. The number of noobs, like me (which now I've learned how CONCORD doesn't act), is really large. If they build up a reputation for not ransoming, they actually lose money, potentially.


the answer it's easy: when the noobs find out why Concord not shooty, also the same noobs won't fall for the trick (or won't fall again), so basicaly you have no reason (except some stupid and costly "ehonour") to keep isk and release the ship. So as a basic rule don't pay ransoms in hisec and you will be fine.

P.S.
i almost forgot: also when you will ask for ransoms in hisec don't forget to pop the guy after he pays, the reason for this (except isk ofc) is his tears/rage, threats, fanmail and so on Big smile



Popular L4 mission hubs are going to be where these people are. If the population there is made aware, they still net loss money from the lack of ransoms.

P.S.
Pretty douchy.
Kavez Vek
Destructors United
#16 - 2012-03-01 23:54:24 UTC
Dead Loss wrote:
233 mil isk ... poor people ahhhhh


I don't even know what he was trying to do here.
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-02 03:27:10 UTC
Judging by the killmail, I don't think Sansha's Nation cares about Ransoms

Terrible Poster Runner-up 2014

Amber Thetawaves
Mong's Marauders
#18 - 2012-03-02 04:50:24 UTC
all this for 50m? ahaha. pure gold

and of course i blew him up, he refused to pay andy!

http://i.imgur.com/qRaJa.jpg
Kazacy
BACKFIRE Squad
#19 - 2012-03-02 05:29:19 UTC
Kavez Vek wrote:


Popular L4 mission hubs are going to be where these people are. If the population there is made aware, they still net loss money from the lack of ransoms.

P.S.
Pretty douchy.


First people never learn properly except the hard way; imo it's the human nature. Second even when they shout in local about you and your deeds, you can do your business as usual because it's seems nobody really cares.

P.S.
Maybe it's douchy but also it's really, really funny and like i said before, in the end nobody cares.
Shawnm339
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Fraternity.
#20 - 2012-03-02 09:15:31 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
I shot a binman once and when he warped off to get his new ship, so did I. Funnily enough he didn't seem to think having a more even match was easy enough a kill for him.


I did exactly the same once it didn't end well for him
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