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What makes a good CSM7 candidate

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-03-01 14:56:59 UTC
Revolution Rising wrote:
How about this one.

CSM convenes as usual ->
CSM talks for hours on end CCP falls asleep ->
months later in an unrelated feature that CSM didn't even know was happening CCP fucks up totally ->
CCP comes to CSM to go "wtf happened we accidently our game" ->
CSM creates perception they fixed issue ->
CCP fixes issue ->
CCP decides to release feature at later date with better marketing ->
idiots perceive CSM has power ->
Broken-minded Mittani followers take advantage of that and create perception everyone should keep voting mittani to continue this great power.



Quoted for truth.

Do you really think that a solvent company would really give the CSM any real power. Illusion of power only.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2012-03-01 14:57:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Templar
Marlona Sky wrote:
A good CSM candidate is a person who pursues changes that are best for the game as a whole and not what is simply best for themselves/corporation/alliance/coalition.

Nope. A good CSM member is the one who does what you said. Good CSM member criticizes the dumb ideas, supports good ideas, and generally keeps an eye so that CCP would not accidently kill the game.

A good the CSM candidate is the one who promises more, who tells you he is 100% behind you and your needs, and whatever bullshit that is required to convince you he is your guy. There is not guarantee that a good candidate will become a good CSM member and will keep any of his promises. Like with most politicians, most of the promises are forgotten next day after elections.

[b]For Love. For Peace. For Honor.

For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#43 - 2012-03-01 15:14:05 UTC
Sidus Sarmiang wrote:

Ok, respond to this again only replace Mittens with CSM because you pubbies keep cherrypicking.


You better not start about cherrypicking because you could end up flooded with quotes from your alliance mates of cherrypicking posts.
Also the current CSM has it's foundations in the previous 5 CSM's, without their work in the passt the current CSM would be in a far lesser position then they are now.
Your alliance and your pets like to claim victories where there are none to claim, simply because all the gruntwork was already done by others.

You yourself write a verbal adoration about your alliance leader and then as woon as someone else uses that same alliance leader as an example why your whole message is flawed it all of a sudden isn't about him anymore but about your alliance as a collective.

You goonswarm members and pets are all alike, you measure everything with any standard you see fit yet when someone does the same like you you all of a suden try to creep into some victim position.
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#44 - 2012-03-01 15:16:07 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:

AFAIK, Time Dilation evolved as a solution one of Team Gridlock's long-term goals (as mentioned in the CSM 5 Winter Summit minutes), "…to have predictable, graceful degradation under load (i.e. when a node gets overloaded the subsequent behavior is predictable and known to the user)"

Time Dilation was first publicly mentioned by CCP Veritas at the Large Scale Warfare roundtable at Fanfest 2011. Everyone on the CSM agreed it was an excellent idea for a variety of reasons, which is why it became a "spotlight" issue for us; we wanted to make sure that it got the resources and prioritization it deserved, and banged the drum loudly for it at every possible opportunity.

This kind of thing -- making sure CCP makes good prioritization decisions -- is one of the most important functions of CSM.



Still boils down to the same end result. The idea didn't come from the one who tries to wear the feathers of victory. But then again that is mainly what the current chairperson can do, and actually about all he can do while being part of the CSM.
Claim victories for other people's idea's and work.
Sidus Sarmiang
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-03-01 20:20:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Sidus Sarmiang
Zixie Draco wrote:
Sidus Sarmiang wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Sidus Sarmiang wrote:
This thread is not about Mittens.

Really?.. Hmmm. Let us have a look at your original post that started this thread...
Sidus Sarmiang wrote:
I'm going to seriouspost a bit. For the record, I'm voting for Mittani.

What? What is this?? The second sentence in your entire post puts Mittani directly into the spotlight and sets the tone for your entire post and this thread. Surely this must be coincidental right?...



My entire post is about how the CSM works together to accomplish the goals and you should vote for candidates that can work with other human beings to get things done. The bit about the Mittani is just a disclaimer so you can't pretend I'm secretly trying to manipulate you when in reality I'm just getting the bit about the fact I'm voting for Mittani out of the way.

The fact I talk about being an effective member of the CSM and your mind automatically equivocates it with Mittani, and then you start raging is p funny though.



I actually approve of (most) all of these things you speak of in this thread... You make a MUCH better campaign manager for your candidate than I am doing for mine, The Little Peoples' Choice Skippermonkey :]

Well met sir....if you smell what the little people are cooking...



Thank you for your thoughts. I'm not a campaign manager for the Mittani, though, in spite of what people keep saying. Even though there's a lot of raging here that gives the impression of a great deal of controversy, it really doesn't exist. Most of the major candidates already have voters lined up for them, and they're not going to lose their positions if a section of Jita Park dislikes them.

All I am is your average goon who has heard Mittani and some of the other candidates talk about how the CSM actually works. This really isn't a big deal at all, but judging from a lot of the posts people have made for their candidates, they've really missed the point.

The whole goal of this post was so that candidates or people in your position can consider how you'll actually fit into the CSM once you're there, assuming your dude is elected. It also wouldn't be a bad idea to speak with existing CSM members beforehand. It gives you a clearer idea of what the CSM will actually involve, develops lines of communication with existing CSM members that'll be valuable later on, and hell, maybe your guy will even get an endorsement. Most importantly, your guy can actually present his ideas to a current CSM member in a one on one format and get some feedback about how feasible they are or how to present them.
Ntrails
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2012-03-01 20:32:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ntrails
You could bloody well have left in the fact that I think this is a terrible thread. I mean, delete the offending profanity by all means but the gist of my post could have been left in tact.

tsk, mods eh?

Edit: Inappropriate content removed, CCP Phantom
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