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Petition to restore old names and stop the renaming process - SIGN HERE.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2012-03-01 03:57:12 UTC
Thanks for the compliment mr goonie. Could you tell more details?

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Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#82 - 2012-03-01 08:53:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Sasha Azala
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
People who really think that naming change helps noobs more than it hurts vets is a tool. No offence.

It also dumps down the game a great deal.




Name changing hurts nobody in the long run as you will adapt to the new names.

As for you mentioning 3rd party software in your opening post, well that's not CCPs problem.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#83 - 2012-03-01 10:16:15 UTC
Forum rules, section 12 - of particular relevance sentence three in that paragraph ^^

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2012-03-01 10:18:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
Sasha Azala wrote:

Name changing hurts nobody in the long run as you will adapt to the new names.

Is that a fact? I am pretty hurt and I'm not even 3rd party developer for general public what comes to stuff what is related to item names. However I do have plenty of crap done/updated for personal use - like many many others.

Go check the official thread in information portal and count how many "non hurt" souls you find complaining there. I can give you a hint. That is more than 0, more than just me and enough for mr door to come to the thread to notify that CCP is going to discuss about solutions again. Perhaps your fact was not such good fact after all.

And no - I don't adapt to stupid things very well - you should be aware of that already by looking all my love to the website and all my fan post about CCP's new brilliant "improved" neocom.
Sasha Azala wrote:

As for you mentioning 3rd party software in your opening post, well that's not CCPs problem.

That is correct. That why it is easy for them to ignore entire issue and push forward with wise decision to p1ss people off rather than even trying to use other more effective methods as primary solution. As a company this should not be CCP's primary goal while desperately trying to redecorate the product.

They are doing this for the noobs and bulldozing everything in their way to gain results which in the end have very limited effect to the targeted group. I would be much more ok with this if all the other stuff had been tried 1st and debate about some justified cautious name changes had taken place. This current campaign is just another shallow attempt to show commitment to refocusing without actually committing any real resources into it.

This is how I see this - truth or not.

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2012-03-01 10:33:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
Bumblefck wrote:
Forum rules, section 12 - of particular relevance sentence three in that paragraph ^^

Yea... as being "Posts of this nature are not conducive to community spirit and are unwelcome. " it probably would be wise to lock this thread and see if the problem goes away.

If "Petitions or "/signed" posts are a version of bumping and likewise are not permitted." surely shooting the statue will soon be bannable action too (to make the problem go away even better :).

But 10/10 points for doing the forum moderators work :)

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Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#86 - 2012-03-01 10:40:25 UTC
The only part I don't really "get" is why upgraded is < limited
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#87 - 2012-03-01 10:40:31 UTC
Yes, mainly because I don't want to download the 38 patches it will take to rename ALL the modules.
Jazzmyn
Finnish Legion
#88 - 2012-03-01 11:52:10 UTC
/not signed.

Just because it isnt convenient for veteran players is not enough reason to stop renaming process. For example implant names are currently total mess, they are not informative at all and based on their names its impossible to say what bonuses they provide.

Naming change is step to right direction, remove extra complexity from EVE where it serves no purpose. In the long run, more logical names make ship fitting faster when u dont have to memorize all the akward names when buying stuff from the market.

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Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-03-01 12:58:44 UTC
i support name change.

Killing your brain with names that make no sense does nothing for the game immersion.

And as i see it they are not overly simplifying names, they are just bringing that old mess in line.

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#90 - 2012-03-01 14:00:42 UTC
Alistair Cononach wrote:
I support CCP on this change.


I support this change and the way it is done (retaining the flavour of the old names)

Carry on CCP, carry on you magnificent bastard you!

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#91 - 2012-03-01 14:05:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
If they change 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher into "Upgraded 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher" it's verbose but still fine, it retains the original flavour.

If they just call it "Upgraded Missile Launcher" it's just a dumbed down piece of garbage (like removing minimizing windows in the neocom).

Edit: "Trauma" is still a crap name, however you flip it. All I think when I read that, is some Dr. House episode.

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#92 - 2012-03-01 18:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Please keep the feedback about the name changes, past and proposed future ones, in the official feedback thread. Thank you!

Thread locked.

It is much easier for our developers to read through one thread and consider the ideas, proposals and feedback than searching all over the forums for scattered feedback threads.

Having one feedback thread makes it also easier to communicate replies and updates from our developers. Creating multiple threads will only cause the communication to slow down or to become obfuscated, nothing we would like to see.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer