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Still need more help, I suck =/

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Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-03-01 08:39:14 UTC
I made a post earlier tonight about suicide ganking to clear the bots out of my home system. I have been googling all night, and I have trained up an alt that had unused skill points to fly a brutix, but she only has like 216 dps and that doesn't seem like enough to suicide gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.

Can someone please give me a brutix fit that is pretty much guaranteed to pop any hulk in 0.9?

All I need is the fit. I can figure out skills from there.

Don't violence me bro!
Ann133566
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-03-01 08:52:10 UTC
Pillowtalk wrote:
I made a post earlier tonight about suicide ganking to clear the bots out of my home system. I have been googling all night, and I have trained up an alt that had unused skill points to fly a brutix, but she only has like 216 dps and that doesn't seem like enough to suicide gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.

Can someone please give me a brutix fit that is pretty much guaranteed to pop any hulk in 0.9?

All I need is the fit. I can figure out skills from there.


Post a Screenshot of your fit. No point telling us your DPS if we don't know your fit.
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-03-01 08:56:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Pillowtalk
HIGH
7 x Heavy Neutron Blaster I

MEDIUM
2 x Tracking Computer I
2 x Target Painter I

LOW
5 x Magnetic Field Stabilizer I

AMMO
Federation Antimatter Charge M

I'm willing to dedicate as much training as needed to this alt to get rid of the bots in my system. After moocho googling just don't know what to do. I'll be honest, I wanna be spoon fed on this.

Don't violence me bro!
CatreX Nolen
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-01 08:59:19 UTC  |  Edited by: CatreX Nolen
http://eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.php -> Search for Catalyst. I can't provide with you with a direct link, as I'm at school.

"Suicide gank 700 dps" or something along those lines
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-01 09:01:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Pillowtalk
CatreX Nolen wrote:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.php -> Search for Catalyst. I can't provide with you with a direct link, as I'm at school.



See thats the problem, I'm getting a ton of conflicting information. In my first post someone told me there is no way a catalyst could successfully gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.

One guy I found was in a hulk with two invulnerability fields II's and a heat dissipation module.

I just want wanna blow up some bots, someone with experience please hrelp!

Don't violence me bro!
CatreX Nolen
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-03-01 09:02:41 UTC
Right... 0.9 Uhm. That sounds interesting. you'll have to wait for someone else... Maybe a BC? No clue.
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-03-01 09:05:18 UTC
CatreX Nolen wrote:
Right... 0.9 Uhm. That sounds interesting. you'll have to wait for someone else... Maybe a BC? No clue.



Yeah I have pretty much accepted the fact I'm gunna have to sacrifice a brutix for each kill, but the first one I just got fitted only has like 216 dps. I don't know much about Eve, but I think I know enough to know that 216 DPS isn't gunna kill a hulk in 0.9.

Don't violence me bro!
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#8 - 2012-03-01 09:08:56 UTC
Just train more skills, but even then im not sure how a well skilled brutix will do in a 0.9 system

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-03-01 09:11:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Pillowtalk
ACE McFACE wrote:
Just train more skills, but even then im not sure how a well skilled brutix will do in a 0.9 system



And therein lies my problem.

I got a new respect for gankers. This stuff ain't easy.

Don't violence me bro!
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#10 - 2012-03-01 09:23:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Azorria
Just get a couple of friends to help you out.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.
Orion Guardian
#11 - 2012-03-01 09:26:45 UTC
You ARE aware of the fact that DPS is kind of pointless for suicide gankinga nd you need something called ALPHA ie volley dmg?

YOu need to put out as much damage in the first volley. Its totally useless to have 700 DPS, if you only apply 1-2 volleys. a High Alpha ship can deal a few thousand points of dmg in one volley but having far lower DPS (because of low Rate of Fire)

So get the Blasters with most dmg per volley (no idea which).
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-03-01 09:37:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Pillowtalk
Orion GUardian wrote:
You ARE aware of the fact that DPS is kind of pointless for suicide gankinga nd you need something called ALPHA ie volley dmg?

YOu need to put out as much damage in the first volley. Its totally useless to have 700 DPS, if you only apply 1-2 volleys. a High Alpha ship can deal a few thousand points of dmg in one volley but having far lower DPS (because of low Rate of Fire)

So get the Blasters with most dmg per volley (no idea which).


No, I didn't know that. Thats why I'm here asking. If you want me to tell you which asteroid to mine for the most profit I'm your man. If you wanna know how much it costs to research a small antimatter charge BPO in a mobile laboratory to M.E. 100 I gotcha, if you want me to tell you how to make money trading in Jita, I'm there for you. I am 100% carebear.

Seriously, apparently I gotta pull out Star Wars, see I'm Luke, and you're Darth Vader. I just don't know how to be evil. You gotta make it happen dark side style!

I get that alpha is first strike damage, but I have no idea what ships or mods put out more damage on their first shots then others.

I DONT PEW PEW!

TEACH MEH!

P.S. My brother plays Eve too and is willing to help me, so advice on how to tag team these evil bastards stealing my asteroids is welcome too.

Don't violence me bro!
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-03-01 09:45:05 UTC
Well isn't this a peach, make a post on here about making ganking harder and 5000 people come posting and crying. Ask how to gank and its a ghost town.

Irony.

Don't violence me bro!
CatreX Nolen
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-03-01 09:49:55 UTC
Orion GUardian wrote:
You ARE aware of the fact that DPS is kind of pointless for suicide gankinga nd you need something called ALPHA ie volley dmg?

YOu need to put out as much damage in the first volley. Its totally useless to have 700 DPS, if you only apply 1-2 volleys. a High Alpha ship can deal a few thousand points of dmg in one volley but having far lower DPS (because of low Rate of Fire)

So get the Blasters with most dmg per volley (no idea which).



T2 Ions/neutrons? (Correct me if wrong)
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-03-01 09:52:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Pillowtalk
CatreX Nolen wrote:
Orion GUardian wrote:
You ARE aware of the fact that DPS is kind of pointless for suicide gankinga nd you need something called ALPHA ie volley dmg?

YOu need to put out as much damage in the first volley. Its totally useless to have 700 DPS, if you only apply 1-2 volleys. a High Alpha ship can deal a few thousand points of dmg in one volley but having far lower DPS (because of low Rate of Fire)

So get the Blasters with most dmg per volley (no idea which).



T2 Ions/neutrons? (Correct me if wrong)



That still doesn't help me. First off please know that I'm truly not trying to be a d-bag here. I know that T2 is better than T1 and I'll train for it if I have to.

What I can't seem to find an answer to are the following two questions.....

#1 What ship and fit do I need to solo gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.

#2 What ships with what fit would me and my brother need to team gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.


Those are the two big questions I'm looking for answers to.

The two alts I've made are fresh. I can train for anything at this point. I just need to know what to train for and what to buy. I'm willing to dump a lot of cash into this. It'll be worth it to be able to log in and go mine in some belt with some fat juicy roids again.

Don't violence me bro!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-03-01 10:01:20 UTC
Pillowtalk wrote:
#1 What ship and fit do I need to solo gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.

#2 What ships with what fit would me and my brother need to team gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.


Those are the two big questions I'm looking for answers to.


If you're looking to do 0.9 ganking, your best bet is to alpha the hulks. You need to scan them to determine how well they are tanked - if you don't, you will most likely flub. Solo ganking in an 0.9 with low-SP alts is not something I'd advise unless you're going after pods in Jita with arty thrashers.

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Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-03-01 10:04:20 UTC
Andski wrote:
Pillowtalk wrote:
#1 What ship and fit do I need to solo gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.

#2 What ships with what fit would me and my brother need to team gank a tanked hulk in 0.9.


Those are the two big questions I'm looking for answers to.


If you're looking to do 0.9 ganking, your best bet is to alpha the hulks. You need to scan them to determine how well they are tanked - if you don't, you will most likely flub. Solo ganking in an 0.9 with low-SP alts is not something I'd advise unless you're going after pods in Jita with arty thrashers.


I understand what you said, and I am more than willing to train the alts for whatever I have too. My questions still haven't been answered though.

Something about killing pods in Jita with arty thrashers....... I don't want to kill pods in Jita. I want to kill tanked hulks in 0.9.

On topic answers please?

Don't violence me bro!
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#18 - 2012-03-01 10:27:35 UTC
Tornado.
Haven't I said this already?

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-03-01 10:30:27 UTC
Grumpymunky wrote:
Tornado.
Haven't I said this already?


What guns and mods?

Is that for solo gank or for team gank with my brother?

Don't violence me bro!
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#20 - 2012-03-01 10:36:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpymunky
Pillowtalk wrote:
Grumpymunky wrote:
Tornado.
Haven't I said this already?


What guns and mods?

Is that for solo gank or for team gank with my brother?


1400 artillery in the highs
gyros in the lows
common sense in the mids

1 to alpha an untanked hulk, 2 for almost any other hulk.

There isn't really a cheap option for 0.9 space, unless you have 4 or 5 characters to throw at them at once.

If you're not using t2 guns, always use faction ammo for a gankship, you won't be using much of it anyway.

Edit: t2 damage mods for the lowslots are an easy train, and really not too expensive for a gankship.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
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