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I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a
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Stonecrusher Mortlock
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-29 16:40:58 UTC
I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around.

So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy.



KrakizBad
Section 8.
#2 - 2012-02-29 16:48:04 UTC
Have a cookie.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#3 - 2012-02-29 16:49:47 UTC
you can not vote and that would be just as effective.

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Stonecrusher Mortlock
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-02-29 19:18:00 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
you can not vote and that would be just as effective.


no that's a show of indifference.



i have 5 accounts that's 5 votes, but have no one to vote FOR, the only thing after than is to use then against the guys you see as not worthy to be on the CSM, like the people that run for the CSM for no other reason than for the free trips and have to useful input but have such large voting blocks behind then they can get on just because they want to.
Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-29 19:19:20 UTC
If you don't vote, you can't gripe later.
Stonecrusher Mortlock
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-29 19:21:01 UTC
Zagam wrote:
If you don't vote, you can't gripe later.




indeed, this is also true.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-02-29 19:45:33 UTC
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
Zagam wrote:
If you don't vote, you can't gripe later.




indeed, this is also true.

I never believed that. I can complain when ever I like...
Stonecrusher Mortlock
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-29 19:50:30 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
Zagam wrote:
If you don't vote, you can't gripe later.




indeed, this is also true.

I never believed that. I can complain when ever I like...



yes but the moment the person your complaining to finds out you didn't vote they REALLY don't care.( not that they did when you started.)
Lexmana
#9 - 2012-02-29 20:14:39 UTC
So you are lazy to find out what the running delegates stand for but still want your prejudice to have maximal impact on CSM?
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-02-29 20:17:39 UTC
vote for xenuria then
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#11 - 2012-02-29 21:20:38 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Zagam wrote:
If you don't vote, you can't gripe later.


Lies I can gripe later just try to stop me P
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#12 - 2012-02-29 21:23:06 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around.

So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy.




It would be funny to see both Mittens & Darius III to have negitive totals if we could -1 vote.
If we could unvote I bet a bunch of Hi Sec candidates would rule the CSM
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-02-29 21:25:48 UTC
I never felt the need to vote =p What does the CSM even do? Serious question tbh...

They make up changes and CCP implements them or they advise CCP or what?

I voted twice because people spammed the vote for Mr XYZ in alliance chat and if you do not you are not cool but yeah... never actually cared =p
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#14 - 2012-02-29 21:34:48 UTC
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around.

So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy.


Idiocy, you do have an unvote!

Unsub. Herp-derp.

There's your five unvotes.

Pleas be sure to post a long tirade on the forums for juicy "Canz has stuffz?" posts and the norm on your way out.

Or perhaps you intend to split your ticket as it were? Mix and match your votes a little bit?

Maybe no?

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
SgtGoodEnd
BTSK
#15 - 2012-02-29 21:35:09 UTC  |  Edited by: SgtGoodEnd
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
Zagam wrote:
If you don't vote, you can't gripe later.




indeed, this is also true.




Not quite...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#16 - 2012-02-29 21:35:10 UTC
I am not gonna vote this election, and I will still gripe this year. Prepare for it.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Serene Repose
#17 - 2012-02-29 21:37:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Zagam wrote:
If you don't vote, you can't gripe later.

This is a fatuous remark. If the tyranny of the power structure packs the slate with corrupts, voting just to be sanctioned to criticize later is endorsing the corruption. It's just the sort of thing "patriotic" Americans say...bearing in mind that patriotism is the final refuge of the scoundrel.

There is no reason to vote for anyone you a.) Don't know from Adam. b.) Know for certain are uninterested in anything that has to do with you, or your "group" of players. However, given that, my right and even responsibility to calls 'em likes I sees 'em remains, regardless of your myopic and heavily indoctrinated comment.

The charade of the CSM being touted by CCP as a source of playerbase interaction is a bigger problem than the physical difficulties involved in overcoming the isolation and size of the player population. Voting blocs take advantage of this, and whoop it up later as being some super majority, when in actuality the total of votes comprising a so-called "landslide" (which Mitt will no doubt claim once again, as he's the poster child for delusional behavior) is a pittance of a percentage. Apathy, and "this is BS" wins every election. They'll win this one too.

CCP is indifferent to this, because all they want to do is make their paperthin claim to create a false impression on a public they think cares. The CSM is no different than botting. False claims abound. The beat goes on. You're right to not vote under these circumstances. I'm not voting either, for the same reason - there's no reason to.

The outcome is fixed. The result will be the same regardless. And, even if we managed to get a CSM to represent us, CCP would ignore that CSM's suggestions, as they would have nothing to do with them...as they play the game themselves, but again, pretend not to...or that they're OBJECTIVE about it...

How do you spell "farce"? Oh yes, t-o-u-r-n-a-m-e-n-t. Never forget.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2012-02-29 21:51:26 UTC
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around.

So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy.






Counterpoint

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Spenser for Hire
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-02-29 22:04:18 UTC
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around.

So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy.




I Vote for the Un-Vote!
O.o
wait ... yeah .... I vote for the Unvote!

All of the current candidates, especially the Mittani, represent whats wrong with MMO's.

Don't ask me to post with my main! You post with your main first!
Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-02-29 22:34:02 UTC
Spenser for Hire wrote:
Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:
I see no reason to vote in the next CSM, but what to do see is a need for a unvote option to be included in CSM 8 during the next go around.

So that you can unvote the ones you think unworthy.




I Vote for the Un-Vote!
O.o
wait ... yeah .... I vote for the Unvote!

All of the current candidates, especially the Mittani, represent whats wrong with MMO's.


What gives you the right to cancel out someone else's choice?
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