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Hall Of Shame! "REVISED TO A TAG SYSTEM" A request to CCP.
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oustade Habalu
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-02-29 18:16:25 UTC  |  Edited by: oustade Habalu
After the recent threads about the latest ban on bots and the Dev promise to explain some of what happen in a soon to be dev blog, I would like to request that a "Tag" System be created, much like the existing ones.

I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support.




Edit: After giving some thought on this I believe that a Tagging system (much like the pirating and SS system) is a better way to identify the offenders, have made the necessary changes to the topic and OP.

PS: The Dev blog is up btw: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9133
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#2 - 2012-02-29 18:20:55 UTC
oustade Habalu wrote:
After the recent threads about the latest ban on bots and the Dev promise to explain some of what happen in a soon to be dev blog, I would like to request that a “Hall Of Shame” thread and/or forum section be created, obviously only post there the confirmed after petitioned cases, the ones that were verified and have no doubts about the infractions.

I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support.


Do a forum search for "Name and Shame."

This is a policy CCP has had for eight years. They will not name and shame, period.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2012-02-29 18:25:41 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
oustade Habalu wrote:
After the recent threads about the latest ban on bots and the Dev promise to explain some of what happen in a soon to be dev blog, I would like to request that a “Hall Of Shame” thread and/or forum section be created, obviously only post there the confirmed after petitioned cases, the ones that were verified and have no doubts about the infractions.

I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support.


Do a forum search for "Name and Shame."

This is a policy CCP has had for eight years. They will not name and shame, period.


^^This

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Pod Potato
Gluttonous Hungers Inc.
#4 - 2012-02-29 18:33:43 UTC
Shaming and blacklisting people is wrong...

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SgtGoodEnd
BTSK
#5 - 2012-02-29 20:03:16 UTC
I don't see any wrong with this, in fact its a great idea!

+1
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#6 - 2012-02-29 20:09:19 UTC
How do I get on this wall of shame? Do I get a badge or anything?
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#7 - 2012-02-29 21:21:44 UTC
+1

Do it CCP!!!
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#8 - 2012-02-29 21:29:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Gustav
Mai Khumm wrote:
+1

Do it CCP!!!


Give me an "EN!"

Give me an "E!"

Give me a "VEE!"

Give me an "E!"

Give me an "AR!"

Seriously, do you need pompoms? They have teams of lawyers advising them - specifically - to not name and shame.

What do you think they're going to do? Follow the advice of a couple of ninnies who want the names listed in the EULA so they know exactly what's in the sandbox?

Probably not. It doesn't require any thought at all. Hence the reason for all the hubbub, I suppose.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#9 - 2012-02-29 21:33:54 UTC
Why, what prurpose does the hall of shame, for not being a good botter and getting caught provide?

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#10 - 2012-02-29 21:36:48 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Why, what prurpose does the hall of shame, for not being a good botter and getting caught provide?


This is precisely where their argument falters in the face of the legions of lawyers.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#11 - 2012-02-29 21:38:42 UTC
oustade Habalu wrote:
I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support..


Except by the botters, cheats, and their friends.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-02-29 21:42:38 UTC
I can't think of a single company that has ever named the characters or accounts banned for any reason. I wouldn't imagine it s a good policy at all to do so. I wouldn't expect this to happen. Frankly I don't care to even see any of that information. A devblog telling me that they did it is good enough for me. I doubt they would blatantly lie about it.

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#13 - 2012-02-29 21:48:41 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I can't think of a single company that has ever named the characters or accounts banned for any reason. I wouldn't imagine it s a good policy at all to do so. I wouldn't expect this to happen. Frankly I don't care to even see any of that information. A devblog telling me that they did it is good enough for me. I doubt they would blatantly lie about it.


Even if they did lie about it, you'd still pay to play in one form or another.

See also: Ghost Training. Lies? So what? Must. Have. SPACECRACK!

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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#14 - 2012-02-29 21:51:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Palovana
Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.

If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.

If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.

That will avoid spreading the plague around.

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The Offerer
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-02-29 22:58:08 UTC
oustade Habalu wrote:
After the recent threads about the latest ban on bots and the Dev promise to explain some of what happen in a soon to be dev blog, I would like to request that a “Hall Of Shame” thread and/or forum section be created, obviously only post there the confirmed after petitioned cases, the ones that were verified and have no doubts about the infractions.

I believe this is shared by most if not all of the community, if this is the case please show your support.


Name and shame of what? Generic masses of characters specifically made for sole purpose of botting with random generated names?
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#16 - 2012-03-01 02:32:57 UTC
Palovana wrote:
Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.

If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.

If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.

That will avoid spreading the plague around.


I like this. If a Character is ever banned (even temp banned) for botting, it should be disallowed from any character transfers. Biomass or keep it, but you cannot sell it.

Katrina Oniseki
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#17 - 2012-03-01 04:36:14 UTC
Palovana wrote:
Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.

If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.

If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.

That will avoid spreading the plague around.


All characters should be locked to the acct that created them. Period.

Mr Epeen Cool
Brock Nelson
#18 - 2012-03-01 04:45:13 UTC
I think I got into the hall of shame once, but they had to kick me out because apparently, masterbating in the open is not allowed.

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Fly byNighter
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-03-01 06:47:31 UTC
+1
Atreides Leto
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-03-01 15:30:25 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Trolling


You seem to be Butthurt, or affraid of...



Mr Epeen wrote:
Palovana wrote:
Botters will sell bot-plagued characters after their temp ban is up.

If a non-botter buys a character and transfers it to his account, his account is now contaminated.

If CCP refuse (for whatever reason) to publicly mark/flag a character that has been banned at least once for botting activity, the character should be perma-locked to the bot-contaminated account where it was when the ban took place, with permanently biomassing it being the only way to separate it from the account.

That will avoid spreading the plague around.


All characters should be locked to the acct that created them. Period.

Mr Epeen Cool



Agree on both counts.

+1
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