EVE General Discussion

Unless you're a player who makes his living creating faction ammo and selling it. Then your profession has just effectively been deleted in order that CCP can make a few bucks from the cash shop.

But you don't make your ISK that way, I suppose, so since it's not game breaking for you, it doesn't matter.

Cash shop for stuff we can't buy now and has no obvious in game mechanism, like reskins, alliance logos on ships and so forth: yeah OK, if the cash shop is the only way we'll get those, then so be it.

Cash shop for stuff that has real effects in game, and obviates player professions? THAT is the very definition of "game-breaking".

You devalue your blog by treating it first and foremost as a tool for political maneuvering (with CCP as the real audience in mind), instead of sticking to the "journal of interesting thoughts/reflections" style.

also the "all those poor ccp employees" angle made me chuckle a bit...

So far it feels like a buggy tech demo.

I love the political barbs, but they are misplaced. I care little for it to begin with.

We already know they plan an item exchange for the NEX, and this is why the Ishukone Scorpion is not available yet, because no exchange is in place.

This says nothing, nothing of whether non-vanity goods will be introduced in the long run WITHOUT an item exchange in place, nor whether those same items will have different statistics than the items they are (or would have been) exchanged for.

For all we know, gold ammo could literally be flashier, or multi-colored laser lights, or missiles that scream when you fire them, or have prettier explosions. The Ishukone Scorpion certainly has no other claim to fame than the fact that it has a unique paint job. Where does that line you quoted say anything more than what we already know is going to be put into the game, re: Ishukone Scorpion?


Once the ship is in the NEX store, I can certainly purchase PLEX for USD, convert enough to ISK to purchase a regular Scorpion from another player, convert the remainder to AURUM, and then exchange it all for an Ishukone Scorpion.

Where does your quote say more than this ^ is ever going to be in the game?



Edit: By customization, they were referring to avatars, I'm sorry you could not deduce that from the context of the quote, but that's the way it is.

I'm a sadist. I don't think I've made a secret of that. Given how EVE works in nullsec, it's pretty representative of my constituents. vOv

Here's the quote with the context:

"In short, it’s the same in Incarna as elsewhere: we give players the means to buy stuff in addition to their base subscription, offering things like new “nano-paints” that allow one to customize ships while docked; new articles of virtual clothing, tattoos, and other avatar customizations; tokens for customizing Captain’s Quarters and so on. Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization: some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright."

It is pretty clear that by "customization" CCP refers to all vanity items, and that "new items, ammunition, ships, etc." are by contrast not vanity.

The rest of your post is just more baseless rationalization.

Could I trouble you to sadistically ask CCP this question on our behalf:

A better question is: if the other 3 CQs were in good enough shape to lead mittens to believe that "Incarna owns" back in April, how is it that they're not ready for release 5 months later?

Your constituents being the residents of NullSec not the EvE community as a whole.

That's the problem.

I definitely do not agree with the introduction of goods that can be purchased more with real life currency compared with game time and energy (re: no item exchanges at all in place), i.e. it would no longer be even the semblance of a level playing field, but......

I am also of the mind that I will never have everything I always wanted, so if CCP is struggling and appears to need additional revenue and are going to sneak in slightly modified but still less than stellar gold ammo into the game, I'll have to make my own hard personal decisions on my own whether enough is enough, or just accept what I have no real control over.

It is the outright and unabashed sale of items WITHOUT an exchange and with a clear and universal advantage over other items in the game that would immediately cause me to leave.

Beyond that, I wait and see... what they actually do or do not do in the future, to decide whether it is too much for me to stomach or not. I harped on Blizzard personally for years after TBC came out because I saw the exact direction the game was going, and I wanted no part of it... years later I burned out on EVE with Dominion for similar reasons, and went back to Warcraft, to find myself overly sentimental and nostalgic to just spend time with friends and enjoy a video game for being a video game despite the obvious path the development has taken since TBC, even despite Blizzard's proclamations to the contrary with the recent Cataclysm expansion, which I played for six months.

To me, although EVE has significantly greater levels of depth, immersion, and open-ended game play compared to Warcraft, it is still just a video game, and there are no real alternatives out there, and if I have to put up with a bit more crap than I want to from CCP just to enjoy the game itself, I may... or I may not... I do not know yet, and will not know until we have more evidence on what they may or may not be planning.

They are certainly going to bean count players... like yourself and I regardless of our opinions, and some of us will get left out as acceptable losses, and others will not. I have no problem being on the losing or winning side, if I can continue to enjoy the game to at least some acceptable degree, i.e. whatever they introduce to the NEX store does not overwhelmingly stigmatize or hinder the player driven nature of the game.



--} I was referring to stuff with easier access, like faction goods, but with real life currency playing more of a factor than ingame currency, i.e. players can already purchase PLEX and resell for ISK to gain access to faction gear with lower fitting requirements, etc.

Who knows, maybe it would require you exchange faction items for gold items, with even lower fitting or usage requirements than their faction counterparts, although how they would squeeze that into the Meta hierarchy is beyond me.

I am just hopeful that if they bite the bullet and take a huge gamble with our subscriptions, that they get it mostly right... as in, they do not go too far. Because I fear it is coming our way regardless of whether we are vocal or not, if they need money, they need money, playing nice with us will not pay the bills if they keep adding more and more expansions but no new subscribers.

You may be right that they would have added an undue amount of subscribers with more and more FiS expansions, but they also decided to diversify their product through WoD, which means subscribers alone may not be enough and thus they are cross-developing both games at once, moreso on the WoD side for us though, unfortunately...

Excuse me sir but your lack of balls is showing. Wipe your mouth and man up

But what should we expect from a guy who makes a living cheating ar a video game and is rewarded for it. You sir are proof that eve is dying and probably deserves it.