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CCP : MACRO BANNINGS

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#61 - 2012-02-29 09:24:21 UTC
This makes BATs war on bots taste so much sweeter.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#62 - 2012-02-29 09:33:02 UTC
Great news, hopefully spam bots will get the hammer too...

Looking forward to that blog!

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thecunning mrfox
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-02-29 09:58:57 UTC
Just finished reading the thread in fhc,

Thank you spank for bringing this to my attention, a truly glorious start to my day.

Props to CCP, the tears produced in that bot thread were far better than the lamentations of their women could ever be.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#64 - 2012-02-29 10:45:06 UTC
I don't know why (a couple of) people think this is me attention whoring but thanks to CCP Sreegs and everyone else for their input in this thread.

CCP; If you are truly taking stronger action against botters then I can only applaud you in your actions.

It's clear from this thread that botters are not welcome and I hope you proceed with harsh actions against those that undermine genuine efforts. I can only imagine the impact that botters place on the reputation of genuine miners.

Lets not forget of course that botters are active in the folllowing activities:

Trading
Courier Contracts
Missioning
Mining (roids/gas/whatever else)
local spam of scam contracts

I look forwards to this blog report and I hope it has anecdotes about Amsterdam too :P I hope you visited the cat barge (cat refuge) that they have there, its the most adorable thing about Amsterdam ♥

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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#65 - 2012-02-29 10:47:24 UTC
You are all wonderful people. I fully endorse the idea of preventing botting characters from being traded.

Looking forward to the devblog o7

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Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2012-02-29 10:55:49 UTC
No trading (of chars) if you botting!!!!!!
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#67 - 2012-02-29 11:09:19 UTC
Hehehe Well this explains oh so much of whats been going on in Eve the past few weeks then and makes a LOT of sense for me. Also took a gander through FHCs thread on it and loved every second of it. This is great.

I play a lot, I got a lot of time on my hands to do so. Loved this game for many years and have always loved to see this kind of stuff go down. Playing till your eyes bleed some days and then watching and knowing theres others that dont have to suffer to get the same results sucks.

Id also love to see a no trading or selling on banned accounts myself.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#68 - 2012-02-29 11:13:03 UTC
CCP Sreegs soon back from Amsterdam.

CCP's greatest expert on pot, erh bots.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#69 - 2012-02-29 11:14:02 UTC
You guys at CCP need to look into a bit of behavioral psychology. There is fixed stimulus and variable stimulus. The most powerful way to affect behavior is to combine the two. Begin with fixed stimulus and then switch over to variable stimulus, and you will train the EVE community to fear your anti-bot crusades.

What does this mean? Have a REGULAR bot purge every few weeks/months or so. Do this for 6 months to a year. Then switch the schedule and have irregular bot purges, sometimes doing them a few weeks in a row, sometimes going months between them. Eventually the botters will become so paranoid because of the unpredictable nature of the purges (after the certainty of a purge was hammered home through fixed stimulus) they will just give up and go elsewhere.

Anyway my $0.02 worth, from what I understand of behavioral psychology.
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2012-02-29 11:14:25 UTC
Well played CCP, Well played! Keep raining down those nukes in the future ^^

I lied :o
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-02-29 12:02:18 UTC
riverini wrote:
I want to invite everybody to stand up and give an standing ovation to Sreegs and CCP for this, the only thing I would ask was why it wasn't done sooner, which i guess is related to how cautious is CCP Games before serving some street justice.

I repeat it BIG APPLAUSE for this!!!! Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile


It'd help if you didn't, you know, publish botting guides on your site.

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Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#72 - 2012-02-29 12:14:02 UTC
Andski wrote:
riverini wrote:
I want to invite everybody to stand up and give an standing ovation to Sreegs and CCP for this, the only thing I would ask was why it wasn't done sooner, which i guess is related to how cautious is CCP Games before serving some street justice.

I repeat it BIG APPLAUSE for this!!!! Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile


It'd help if you didn't, you know, publish botting guides on your site.

Amen.
Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2012-02-29 12:26:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Bubanni
Hi CCP, can I ask you something?... Are you still giving warnings to first time offenders of botting? last I heard you only took their isk and banned for... idk. 10-14 days................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

I personly think there should be a zero tolerance towards people who bot... that will make some of the average players more careful about botting...

Also ban their main accounts if you can link the isk transferes to it, and your sure they are the same people, most of the botters aren't using their mains for it, they consider their botters throw away characters

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#74 - 2012-02-29 12:55:48 UTC
Ezurae wrote:
Well since they also don't seem to answer petitions in the EULA & TOS category its also not possible to show them the facts and point them right towards the botters...


They do answer petitions in EULA & TOS but they assume by default that you are a botter asking for ban removal before even opening your message. Therefore they always impose a forced 2 weeks wait. I sent them several questions over the years, always had to wait for weeks.

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Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-02-29 13:09:35 UTC
SREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGS
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#76 - 2012-02-29 13:29:17 UTC
At the very least you should know if the char you are about to buy has any warnings or not.
You're Mum
The New Eden Yacht Club
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#77 - 2012-02-29 13:45:29 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:


I'm stoned :(



Ftfy

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You're Mum
The New Eden Yacht Club
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#78 - 2012-02-29 13:52:33 UTC
Well done though sreegs. But as every one has said this needs to be a regular thing.
You say that this isn't a publicity thing for fanfest then great, do the same thing next month and the month after.

Can't wait for the blog on this, obviously you would need to hold back how you worked out how these dicks are botting but would be interesting to hear what you have to say.
As others have said stats on what alliances have the most bothers would be interesting.
And name and shame also!!

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You're Mum
The New Eden Yacht Club
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#79 - 2012-02-29 13:57:04 UTC  |  Edited by: You're Mum
Andski wrote:
riverini wrote:
I want to invite everybody to stand up and give an standing ovation to Sreegs and CCP for this, the only thing I would ask was why it wasn't done sooner, which i guess is related to how cautious is CCP Games before serving some street justice.

I repeat it BIG APPLAUSE for this!!!! Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile


It'd help if you didn't, you know, publish botting guides on your site.



Yeah riverini a how to guide is so the best way to combat botting.
As always you are made of win! Well done....:slow clap:

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#80 - 2012-02-29 14:25:08 UTC
Now that CCP has finally gotten REAL SERIOUS about this......I've reported no less than 9 obvious bots in Thiarer alone this morning.

I ganked 2 next door in Orva last month and got them both banned.

Go to it CCP !

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