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Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#1 - 2012-02-29 01:21:09 UTC
Who would be your dream team?

In this thread I ask both representative and voter who you would like to see working shoulder to shoulder speaking for the playerbase.

I’m curious what is on the mind of the majority at this point in the campaign, and I just don’t have the willpower read through all the candidate’s threads, or even those with less than 100 replies.

So I’d like to ask you to finish off, or completely amend the following list of seven seats with a positive comment on why the candidate is sitting there.

1) Trebor as Chair - to keep the lines of communication open
2) The Mittani - because he makes more sense than you’d like to admit and a CSM without him would be wrong.
3) Seleene - for honest passion for the game and the future of high skillpoint players.
4) Hans - for a holistic grasp of EVE gameplay
5) Alek - bescause he escaped New York Zoo, jes kidding; for wars and wardecs.
6) Kelduum - for the newbs of highsec who can’t speak for themselves
7)

As I said, feel free to disagree, just please comment on why.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-29 02:32:54 UTC
Mittens as chair, Seleene, Elise, Hans, Trebor and I don't care about the rest

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Delici Feelgood
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-02-29 02:46:22 UTC
1) Trebor as Chair - has the wisdom, hopes he opens up communication further especially with more identified minutes.
2) Hans - Need him for war declerations, other significant warfare mechanics and policing systems which seem hot topics for the next term.
3) Kelduum - this is the hollistic candidate of choice which will provide a wealth of different experiences from numerous perspectives. Something that EvE Uni helps him achieve.
4) Seleene - Most concientous null sec candidate.
5) Two step - Worm holes
6) Voloses - Another level headed null sec candidate.
7) Alekseyev - since small gang warfare interests need to have a stronger voice.
8)...
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-02-29 03:49:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Triskian
1. The Mittani as chair, not because he's my CEO but I fear a CSM without him will return to being as ineffective as CSM1-5. If you can lead a group of depressed social shutins who take out their angst on others you can do anything.
2. Trebor as secretary, which he seems well suited for, also I heard he told Mittens to "hushup for 5 minutes" during a summit and I think having someone there willing to stand up to Mittens provides a valuable check that can assuage pubbie fears of another year of Chairman Mittens.
3. UAxDeath, I secretly think his moonshine did CCP a lot of good and they should receive regular doses of it, as a certified internet doctor, I prescribe lots of high test rocket fuel to all patients.
4. Two-step because he's an alright guy and brings a perspective that might otherwise get ignored.
5. Hans, I guess empire needs representation too.
6. Seleene I don't know why, I just couldn't think of anyone better.
7. Dovinian, TEST brosefs, also maybe having to deal with him will make Mittens FINALLY reset TEST.
* 8. Riverini, just because every serious group needs comedic relief and it'll be hilarious when his legal obligations clash with his "morals and ethics" regarding his unique brand of journalism.

* Not really, I can't think of anyone else I'd like to see on the CSM but definitely not Riverini.

Aside from 1. and 2. I don't really care about the order of the other 5. The remaining slots I don't care about so long as they aren't filled by one of the many joke candidates.
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-29 05:45:16 UTC
Triskian wrote:
1. The Mittani as chair, not because he's my CEO but I fear a CSM without him will return to being as ineffective as CSM1-5.


Way to ignore the thousands of players who unsubscribed to allow CSM 6 to have a leg to stand on. During CSM 5 term, the only thing CCP would listen to is the sound of micro-transaction cha-ching sounds they saw from other MMO's. CSM 5 warned CCP to stop doing a,b,c and start doing x,y,z to avoid a disaster with the player base and CCP ignored it. Guess what happened next? That's right. The player base raged, subscription numbers fell through the floor. The CSM 5 prediction came true. CSM 6 enters office and CCP looks at them and screams, "****! What do we do?!" Do you know what CSM 6 said?

The same damn things CSM 5 and previous CSM's have said. Stop doing a,b,c and start doing x,y,z!

In no way am I advocating that CSM 6 is bad. I think they have done a solid job. I am just enlightening you to your delusion that all previous CSM's were ineffective. All these current chest sucking wounds that CSM 6 pushes to be addressed are nothing new. They have been previously pushed by other CSM's and perhaps more importantly by the players themselves.

Be honest here. Do you truly believe that the players unsubscribing has nothing to do with CCP's new direction and it is all because of CSM 6?
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-29 06:00:41 UTC
Way to ignore the fact that JBs were stupidly nerfed by an all-empire CSM5. Yeah, they really did a great thing there.Roll
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-29 07:02:48 UTC
Triskian wrote:
Way to ignore the fact that JBs were stupidly nerfed by an all-empire CSM5. Yeah, they really did a great thing there.Roll


It did do a great thing. An entire super coalition had to learn how to take gates to travel again.
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-29 08:59:43 UTC
Because it's not like people camp JBs like they would gates, right? Oh wait.

All the empire pubbies who'd never used JBs before did was make travel times a little longer without increasing risk. Actually it's probably safer since you're more likely to run into a awoxer sitting on a JB than running into a gatecamp between two systems in the heart of whatever your respective alliance's space is. Great idea to support there CSM5, let's make nullsec travel marginally longer and a lot safer!

Please, keep pretending you understand null-sec issues, it's cute. People like you are why we NEED someone like Mittens as chairman.

I'd ask that we end the derail here but I'm sure you're gonna have to get the last word in regardless.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-29 14:48:01 UTC
1) MINTROLIO (CHAIR)
2) SKIPPERMONKEY
3) SKIPPERMONKEY
4) SKIPPERMONKEY
5) SKIPPERMONKEY
6) SKIPPERMONKEY
7) SKIPPERMONKEY

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-02-29 17:01:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Marzetti
For the most part, the dream would be a second year term for CSM6. The results speak for themselves.

Since not everyone is returning, though, I'd like to keep as much of CSM6 as possible, minus anyone who was notoriously useless. I have to say I worry for the non-bloc incumbents like Trebor and Two step because their constituencies may be split too much among the other non-bloc candidates, and while some of those other candidates may have some good ideas, I'm looking for experience and the ability to strike the delicate balance between sticking to your guns and working well with others.

I would also like to see The Mittani continue as Chairman. Partly because he has proven himself to be effective as chairman, but mainly because the sound of angry monkeys shaking their cages in fury and frustration helps me sleep, and I'm running low on angry monkey youtubes, so I'm hoping for the Eve-O forums equivalent of that.

Seleene, Two step, UAxDeath (never underestimate the power of moonshine), Trebor Daehboow, Elise Randolph, and Meissa Anunthiel all seem pretty good and are my choices among the incumbents. I really don't think we would have gotten something as solid as Crucible without them. I don't think their work is done, and I see no reason not to send back a winning team.

As for the stay at home seven, as long as they're not from my nightmare team (which I suspect is the same for most of us) they'll probably be fine, and they'll develop the experience they need to go to Iceland as part of later CSMs. But in my opinion, CSM7 is a referendum on Crucible so I'm in favor of incumbents winning the top 7.
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#11 - 2012-02-29 17:13:29 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
1) MINTROLIO (CHAIR)
2) SKIPPERMONKEY
3) SKIPPERMONKEY
4) SKIPPERMONKEY
5) SKIPPERMONKEY
6) SKIPPERMONKEY
7) SKIPPERMONKEY


There was a Saint who was said to be able to split himself into each of the cardinal compass points and travel in that direction. Are you related?

If you could muster that much energy it would be impressive representation indeed, but it begs the question; what would your clones and Mintrrolio agree upon?
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-02-29 18:01:47 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Triskian wrote:
1. The Mittani as chair, not because he's my CEO but I fear a CSM without him will return to being as ineffective as CSM1-5.


Way to ignore the thousands of players who unsubscribed to allow CSM 6 to have a leg to stand on. During CSM 5 term, the only thing CCP would listen to is the sound of micro-transaction cha-ching sounds they saw from other MMO's. CSM 5 warned CCP to stop doing a,b,c and start doing x,y,z to avoid a disaster with the player base and CCP ignored it. Guess what happened next? That's right. The player base raged, subscription numbers fell through the floor. The CSM 5 prediction came true. CSM 6 enters office and CCP looks at them and screams, "****! What do we do?!" Do you know what CSM 6 said?

The same damn things CSM 5 and previous CSM's have said. Stop doing a,b,c and start doing x,y,z!

In no way am I advocating that CSM 6 is bad. I think they have done a solid job. I am just enlightening you to your delusion that all previous CSM's were ineffective. All these current chest sucking wounds that CSM 6 pushes to be addressed are nothing new. They have been previously pushed by other CSM's and perhaps more importantly by the players themselves.

Be honest here. Do you truly believe that the players unsubscribing has nothing to do with CCP's new direction and it is all because of CSM 6?



ex-tri bitterness aside

1.) drew carnegie
2.) drew carnegie
3.) drew carnegie
4.) drew carnegie
5.) drew carnegie
6.) drew carnegie
7.) The "the miteny" Mittani I guess
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-02-29 18:04:55 UTC
seriously though I'd quite like to see Seleene and Prom get on too
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-02-29 20:56:09 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
I have to say I worry for the non-bloc incumbents like Trebor and Two step because their constituencies may be split too much among the other non-bloc candidates...

Well, if you're truly concerned, there is a simple solution... Twisted

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery
Tsubutai
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-02-29 21:09:34 UTC
Triskian wrote:
Way to ignore the fact that JBs were stupidly nerfed by an all-empire CSM5. Yeah, they really did a great thing there.Roll

CSM 5 had members from noted empire alliances -A- and Morsus Mihi (back when the NC was a going concern), along with PL and NPC 0.0 based groups (Outbreak, Agony).
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-02-29 21:23:43 UTC
I stand corrected.

Amend my earlier comment with "All-pubbie CSM5."
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#17 - 2012-02-29 23:32:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Issler Dainze
Snowflake Tem wrote:
Who would be your dream team?

In this thread I ask both representative and voter who you would like to see working shoulder to shoulder speaking for the playerbase.

I’m curious what is on the mind of the majority at this point in the campaign, and I just don’t have the willpower read through all the candidate’s threads, or even those with less than 100 replies.

So I’d like to ask you to finish off, or completely amend the following list of seven seats with a positive comment on why the candidate is sitting there.

1) Trebor as Chair - to keep the lines of communication open
2) The Mittani - because he makes more sense than you’d like to admit and a CSM without him would be wrong.
3) Seleene - for honest passion for the game and the future of high skillpoint players.
4) Hans - for a holistic grasp of EVE gameplay
5) Alek - bescause he escaped New York Zoo, jes kidding; for wars and wardecs.
6) Kelduum - for the newbs of highsec who can’t speak for themselves
7)

As I said, feel free to disagree, just please comment on why.


My list of the top 14 - please don't read much into the order (other than me in the top 7 Smile )


1) Seleene - One of the best CSM to date
2) Hans - Very broad perspective of Eve
3) Alek - Fantastic for PvP, SOV and Warfare ideas
4) T'amber Anomandari Demaleon - great asset to Eve - would be a huge asset to CSM 7
5) Issler Dainze - for the miners of Eve
6) Meissa Anunthiel - rounded player and accomplished CSM member
7) Kelduum Revaan - There should always be an Eve Uni CSM member
8) Mike Azariah - its about time we had an RP-er in the CSM!
9) Roc Wieler - We need a CSM member to hold us all accountable
10) The Mittani - He was very effective in CSM 6 at working with CCP and best for null - I put him at 9 just because I know he'll chair again but you have to admit if he ended up not in the top 7 it would mean we had a pretty crazy election!
11) Two step - hard working and the voice of the WH - also software background a plus
12) Mintrolio *
13) Blake Armitage - I think his focus and RL background would add depth to CSM 7
14) SKIPPERMONKEY - I'd vote him secretary!


So there is my CSM 7 line up. I have to say I was biased away from members of large alliances when it came close to deciding. I also was reluctant to consider members of the CSM 6 but in the end some of them do impress me.

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate

* Note: Just replaced Trebor Daehdoow after his personal attack in his recent "independent (from a candidate) voters guiide P
Mintrolio
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-02-29 23:37:58 UTC
CONFRIMIGN IS MAK SAD

ALSO I THINK YOU MISSIGN PLACES 3A - MINTROLIO ?

KEEP UP GOOD POASTIGN

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#19 - 2012-02-29 23:43:56 UTC
Mintrolio wrote:
CONFRIMIGN IS MAK SAD

ALSO I THINK YOU MISSIGN PLACES 3A - MINTROLIO ?

KEEP UP GOOD POASTIGN


It was really hard for me to pick between you and Skippermonkey, I see you both bringing something unique to the CSM 7!

Issler
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#20 - 2012-03-01 00:38:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Snowflake Tem
Issler Dainze wrote:

8) Mike Azariah - its about time we had an RP-er in the CSM!


in any other game I'd be behind Mike all the way.
But I don't think the EVE universe is ready yet for real RPers to get behind it fully. It still needs fundamental game mechs and UI issues to be addressed,

The tale system being developed for for CCP Dropbear & Headfirst to use hold promise but are far from comprehensive enough for CCP to promote EVE as anything other than a PvP experience.

But I 100% agree with Mikes comments on Lost in Eve podcast. recent developments have sullied some of the richness of EVE lore in it's application to game play, and while it is good that things like item naming conventions are being re-re-mastered to preserve the continuity. It says something about the state of the game that people have had to shout up about it.

Just look at the Gallente ships; you have to wonder about the dichotomy of a race that rushes headlong into combat blasters blazing yet rewards its faction warfare generals with a shield medal. It would make sense if we were hiding behind a strong defensive wall of combat drones, but drones are weak on many levels as combat PvP tools.

He has a strong platform to run for CSM and deserves every support, but this is not the time I don't think.
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