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Renaming stuff...

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Vin Ott
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-02-27 08:54:02 UTC
Hi,

Ccp I have no idea why you want to change the names of modules just like you did last time and put some of them in tq

It's just a terrible thing if you ask me, people are used to the new names suddenly changing them is just ****** up then you can start changing the name of the game as well " We do what we want online"

More rage please <3

Thnx
Sarmatiko
#2 - 2012-02-27 10:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Show on the doll where CCP touched you.
In latest data comparison, the only new renames were renames for resist hardeners/amplifiers.
Also:
Standard Missile Launcher => Light Missile Launcher
Siege Missile Launcher => Torpedo Launcher
Assault Missile Launcher => Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher => Assault Missile Launcher
and massive hardwiring rename.

That's a good changes if you ask me.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#3 - 2012-02-27 16:39:49 UTC
Last I checked they also have fixed half of the FOF missiles to the damage names of all the other missiles.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4 - 2012-02-27 16:44:18 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Show on the doll where CCP touched you.
In latest data comparison, the only new renames were renames for resist hardeners/amplifiers.
Also:
Standard Missile Launcher => Light Missile Launcher
Siege Missile Launcher => Torpedo Launcher
Assault Missile Launcher => Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher => Assault Missile Launcher
and massive hardwiring rename.

That's a good changes if you ask me.



OMFG the name changes we been screaming for for YEARS.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#5 - 2012-02-27 16:44:43 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Last I checked they also have fixed half of the FOF missiles to the damage names of all the other missiles.



Well we lost that fight...

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
CCP Gnauton
C C P
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2012-02-28 11:33:45 UTC
A devblog has been written explaining the why and the what of this project, as well as going into detail about the exact changes made in this iteration. The blog is in Community's pipeline right now and should see the light of day sometime this week. We are also creating a centralized resource where players will be able to access a list of all name changes made since the project's inception. Please be patient for now - all will be revealed in due time.
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
#7 - 2012-02-28 14:25:07 UTC
It makes sense in many ways as long the renaming doesn't take away the indeep experience of a mystical space MMO (New players are supposed to get shock & awe about Eve and not get spoonfed like w*w users)
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#8 - 2012-02-28 17:28:58 UTC
CCP Gnauton wrote:
A devblog has been written explaining the why and the what of this project, as well as going into detail about the exact changes made in this iteration. The blog is in Community's pipeline right now and should see the light of day sometime this week. We are also creating a centralized resource where players will be able to access a list of all name changes made since the project's inception. Please be patient for now - all will be revealed in due time.


We will never forgive you for Trauma.

Never.

Where I am.
Alexila Quant
Versatility Production Corporation' LLC
#9 - 2012-02-29 00:21:17 UTC
CCP Gnauton wrote:
A devblog has been written explaining the why and the what of this project, as well as going into detail about the exact changes made in this iteration. The blog is in Community's pipeline right now and should see the light of day sometime this week. We are also creating a centralized resource where players will be able to access a list of all name changes made since the project's inception. Please be patient for now - all will be revealed in due time.



Soon ™
Billatron
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-02-29 02:07:27 UTC
I hate this. You know that graph of the eve learning curve that is a cliff, you're killing it. Please stop dumbing down Eve.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#11 - 2012-02-29 03:10:50 UTC
Alexila Quant wrote:
CCP Gnauton wrote:
A devblog has been written explaining the why and the what of this project, as well as going into detail about the exact changes made in this iteration. The blog is in Community's pipeline right now and should see the light of day sometime this week. We are also creating a centralized resource where players will be able to access a list of all name changes made since the project's inception. Please be patient for now - all will be revealed in due time.



Soon ™

Tomorrow is not TM lol It was tweeted he was editing it earlier to night.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Sprite Can
#12 - 2012-02-29 03:20:17 UTC
Billatron wrote:
I hate this. You know that graph of the eve learning curve that is a cliff, you're killing it. Please stop dumbing down Eve.


I hope this is sarcasm. So, in your opinion then, would it be better if CCP renamed everything by smashing their faces on their keyboards?

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher -> a89wdh39hu3h

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery -> daj18d211

It'll make EVE harder! It'll be great!

Refreshing Lemon-Lime~
Billatron
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-02-29 03:37:04 UTC
Sprite Can wrote:
Billatron wrote:
I hate this. You know that graph of the eve learning curve that is a cliff, you're killing it. Please stop dumbing down Eve.


I hope this is sarcasm. So, in your opinion then, would it be better if CCP renamed everything by smashing their faces on their keyboards?

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher -> a89wdh39hu3h

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery -> daj18d211

It'll make EVE harder! It'll be great!


No you don't get it at all. 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher is great, limited heavy missile launcher/ upgraded heavy missile launcher/ prototype heavy missile launcher is just so plain. I know this isn't exactly how its going but they are taking/have taken flavor away from the game imo.

I want to go to a space junkyard and upgrade my ship with a y-t8 hydrocarbon mwd rather than trade my limited mwd for an upgraded mwd.

There is no need to make everything 'easier' to read or understand, that just encourages the no brain wow players. Unique names add depth. One of the cool points in eve was that there was just so much stuff to learn, i think they are taking this away.
Sprite Can
#14 - 2012-02-29 04:14:42 UTC
Billatron wrote:

There is no need to make everything 'easier' to read or understand, that just encourages the no brain wow players.


This is where your wrong. The second part of this is completely untrue and irrelevant, so I'm going to try to ignore that, but there is absolutely a need to make things easier to understand. Having to memorize a near endless list of completely arbitrarily named items does not make a game difficult. It makes a game frustrating. I have memorized many of these item names, just like everyone else who's been playing this game for a significant amount of time, and I am going to have to relearn item names just like everyone else if this change goes through.

For the older players, not much is really gained, I agree. But for the newer players it makes the game that much better. And again, no, this change is not meant to appeal to "no brain wow players". No person who didn't play EVE because they thought it was too hard is going to think, "Oh, they renamed all of the items! Great, easymode just how I wanted! YAY!" This is a change for the good of the game, and something that needed to happen years ago.

Refreshing Lemon-Lime~
who shat themselves
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-02-29 06:10:23 UTC
Billatron wrote:
Sprite Can wrote:
Billatron wrote:
I hate this. You know that graph of the eve learning curve that is a cliff, you're killing it. Please stop dumbing down Eve.


I hope this is sarcasm. So, in your opinion then, would it be better if CCP renamed everything by smashing their faces on their keyboards?

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher -> a89wdh39hu3h

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery -> daj18d211

It'll make EVE harder! It'll be great!


No you don't get it at all. 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher is great, limited heavy missile launcher/ upgraded heavy missile launcher/ prototype heavy missile launcher is just so plain. I know this isn't exactly how its going but they are taking/have taken flavor away from the game imo.

I want to go to a space junkyard and upgrade my ship with a y-t8 hydrocarbon mwd rather than trade my limited mwd for an upgraded mwd.

There is no need to make everything 'easier' to read or understand, that just encourages the no brain wow players. Unique names add depth. One of the cool points in eve was that there was just so much stuff to learn, i think they are taking this away.


Aspergers
YuuKnow
The Scope
#16 - 2012-03-01 04:02:37 UTC
The market browsing index should be changed as well to reflect the new module names. For example, torpedo launchers are still listed under "siege launchers".
Bent Barrel
#17 - 2012-03-01 12:10:52 UTC
Sprite Can wrote:
Billatron wrote:

There is no need to make everything 'easier' to read or understand, that just encourages the no brain wow players.


This is where your wrong. The second part of this is completely untrue and irrelevant, so I'm going to try to ignore that, but there is absolutely a need to make things easier to understand. Having to memorize a near endless list of completely arbitrarily named items does not make a game difficult. It makes a game frustrating. I have memorized many of these item names, just like everyone else who's been playing this game for a significant amount of time, and I am going to have to relearn item names just like everyone else if this change goes through.

For the older players, not much is really gained, I agree. But for the newer players it makes the game that much better. And again, no, this change is not meant to appeal to "no brain wow players". No person who didn't play EVE because they thought it was too hard is going to think, "Oh, they renamed all of the items! Great, easymode just how I wanted! YAY!" This is a change for the good of the game, and something that needed to happen years ago.


What does the new player gain exactly ?

He has to do show info and research the attributes anyway since he is new. Now with all the renaming veterans have to do the same.

Upgraded/limited/experimental sound the same to me and are hard to tell apart without looking at their stats ... however cold-gas, hydrocarbon, y-t8 etc were nicely separated and easy to spot.

Don't lie to yourself about the new pilot having it better now. It's simply not the case.
Bent Barrel
#18 - 2012-03-01 12:12:46 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Show on the doll where CCP touched you.
In latest data comparison, the only new renames were renames for resist hardeners/amplifiers.
Also:
Standard Missile Launcher => Light Missile Launcher
Siege Missile Launcher => Torpedo Launcher
Assault Missile Launcher => Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher => Assault Missile Launcher
and massive hardwiring rename.

That's a good changes if you ask me.


Do they also rename the related skills (standard missiles ....)?