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So last night, I fixed exploration....
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Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#1 - 2011-09-21 16:30:50 UTC
It seems the main problem is that people expect to find things and get loot. This is where the problem occurs. Said player goes through an hour session of scanning, finds nothing good, exploration is clearly broken.

Here is what is actually going on. We're NOT supposed to find anything, at all, ever. So now when you scan for an hour and find nothing, its working as intended. If for some odd reason something seemingly useful does actually pop up on your scanner (you may want to petition this if it does occur, as it should not have happened), remember, it's a grav site.

Keeping that in mind, when you do find a bug (also called ded sites), you should now be much happier and excited than you would have been before under the assumption that you ARE supposed to find things. Exploration is now not only fixed, but awesomesauce.

Basically, exploration is fine. It's people's perceptions of it that is broken.

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#2 - 2011-09-21 16:32:17 UTC
Kilrayn wrote:
It seems the main problem is that people expect to find things and get loot. This is where the problem occurs. Said player goes through an hour session of scanning, finds nothing good, exploration is clearly broken.

Here is what is actually going on. We're NOT supposed to find anything, at all, ever. So now when you scan for an hour and find nothing, its working as intended. If for some odd reason something seemingly useful does actually pop up on your scanner (you may want to petition this if it does occur, as it should not have happened), remember, it's a grav site.

Keeping that in mind, when you do find a bug (also called ded sites), you should now be much happier and excited than you would have been before under the assumption that you ARE supposed to find things. Exploration is now not only fixed, but awesomesauce.

Basically, exploration is fine. It's people's perceptions of it that is broken.



tl;dr people are stupid
Aamrr
#3 - 2011-09-21 16:33:06 UTC
Long-winded, idiotic, uninsightful posts like these are why we need a "dislike" button.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#4 - 2011-09-21 16:37:22 UTC
Aamrr wrote:
Long-winded, idiotic, uninsightful posts like these are why we need a "dislike" button.


Hateful posts like these are why we need a "dislike" button
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#5 - 2011-09-21 16:42:18 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Kilrayn wrote:
It seems the main problem is that people expect to find things and get loot. This is where the problem occurs. Said player goes through an hour session of scanning, finds nothing good, exploration is clearly broken.

Here is what is actually going on. We're NOT supposed to find anything, at all, ever. So now when you scan for an hour and find nothing, its working as intended. If for some odd reason something seemingly useful does actually pop up on your scanner (you may want to petition this if it does occur, as it should not have happened), remember, it's a grav site.

Keeping that in mind, when you do find a bug (also called ded sites), you should now be much happier and excited than you would have been before under the assumption that you ARE supposed to find things. Exploration is now not only fixed, but awesomesauce.

Basically, exploration is fine. It's people's perceptions of it that is broken.



tl;dr people are stupid


True, but posting that would only get the thread locked Cool

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-09-21 16:45:23 UTC
But I'm an explorer! I am entitled to rare expensive drops!
Fabulous Virgil
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-09-21 16:48:49 UTC
man what you've said was so insightfull, it definetly was worth creating a new topic to share your brilliant and innovative opinion on this matter

edit: yes, a dislike button would be great
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#8 - 2011-09-21 16:52:02 UTC
Fabulous Virgil wrote:
man what you've said was so insightfull, it definetly was worth creating a new topic to share your brilliant and innovative opinion on this matter

edit: yes, a dislike button would be great


ikr?

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#9 - 2011-09-21 16:57:26 UTC
Fabulous Virgil wrote:
man what you've said was so insightfull, it definetly was worth creating a new topic to share your brilliant and innovative opinion on this matter


Apparently so, since most of the Eve population doesn't seem to understand this basic fact, so it would be quite insightful for them.
Aamrr
#10 - 2011-09-21 17:04:55 UTC
Oh, certainly. So much so that we only see these topics about twice per week...
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#11 - 2011-09-21 23:19:32 UTC
Aamrr wrote:
Oh, certainly. So much so that we only see these topics about twice per week...


I don't know, I've never actually seen the OP's take on the subject, maybe I'm not forum whoring enough.

It's pretty badly written and could be a lot funnier, but the essence of the idea - that exploration is a lot more fun if you go in expecting to find nothing and are pleasantly surprised when you do - is certainly true.

Hell, this can be applied to many aspects of the game. When roaming, I tell myself I'm taking a scenic tour of New Eden, and holy **** if something shows up in my way I can shoot than gee willikers, it's my lucky day, who wouldathunkit?
Goose99
#12 - 2011-09-22 00:36:07 UTC
Fabulous Virgil wrote:
man what you've said was so insightfull, it definetly was worth creating a new topic to share your brilliant and innovative opinion on this matter

edit: yes, a dislike button would be great


Psh, all my alts and alliance peons like every one of my posts. Your dislike don't matter.Big smile
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#13 - 2011-09-22 04:09:22 UTC
Glad to see some people understanding what I'm trying to say. I can see the 'beating the dead horse' idea, and I am indeed not helping that, but how is anyone supposed to change that at this point?

While possibly poorly worded and not funny to all, I do stand behind my original idea. The game is working well imho, but some people will see what they want.

If you agree or disagree, all ideas are welcome.

"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes it makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears
Usurpine
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-09-22 06:22:04 UTC
I like gravimetric sites, the last one i found was full with arkonor and bistot, our corp made hell of isk in shortest time.