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New wardec system on Sisi

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Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#141 - 2012-02-28 19:11:28 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.


It costs AUR to declare peace?

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Lord Wiggin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2012-02-28 19:17:30 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.


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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#143 - 2012-02-28 19:32:09 UTC
After all the trolling and posturing, has anyone actually checked Sisi to see if there has been any change to the war dec mechanic at all? (My guess: No, there has not).

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#144 - 2012-02-28 19:51:05 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
After all the trolling and posturing, has anyone actually checked Sisi to see if there has been any change to the war dec mechanic at all? (My guess: No, there has not).

No mention of anything on the testing forums other than people whining about how people are not able to use SiSi as their personal playground because of mirrors happening too often, so...

No, there has not.

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Toxina Trooper
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#145 - 2012-02-28 20:53:07 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

+1
Anshio Tamark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#146 - 2012-02-28 20:56:49 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.

"Declare peace functionality may be broken"? You're not sure if you can declare peace or not? Good thing you're only testing it on SiSi at the moment. I sure would hate to see this game mechanic suddenly being activated on TQ.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#147 - 2012-02-28 22:10:27 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
It's called:

. Having a life and not wanting to spend several hours dealing with some silly twats on the internet who think it's funny to grief other players
. Not wanting to go and pick fights they know they can't win because they do PvE or Industry more

Merc's would be happy to do this for you.

See above

Valei Khurelem wrote:
. Knowing that the game is rigged and even if that griefer is only in a one man corp he might have 7 of his friends hiding ready to take your corp members out

a) only if you let it be
b)Greifing is petitionable - only certain things are greifing per/ccp - CCP made it this way, I'm betting they know about it.
c) don't fly what you can't afford to lose and have fun doing it.

In *MY* experience, if you go out and attack them with rifters, etc., they will, after a time, leave and be on their way. If you talk **** in local - they will come after you more. Why? Because you talk **** in local...

Valei Khurelem wrote:
. They'll inevitably also be in a 30+ corporation so you're either going to be forced to disband or recruit far more players than you originally wanted to if they're actually serious about attacking

Go to a wormhole for a week - most (read: not all) won't follow.

Valei Khurelem wrote:
This is a ******* sandbox so quit trying to force someone elses playstyle on another just because you're bored you ******* muppets you always cry about players trying to change your game yet you go around griefing players constantly for their playstyle and then wonder why they're quitting or disbanding their corporations.

It is a sandbox, CCP made, and CCP outlined. Hi-Sec wars are part of the outline that we *all* play in. Valei, we have a new expansion coming out (Inferno), in which I've heard that CCP is taking a look at the "crime-watch" code (the code that governs aggression and crime). Keep an eye on the expansion to see where CCP is going with this. Either a *FURTHER* endorsement of blowing **** up, or an endorsement of what you want - a place to play where no-one can bother you. I know which way I'm placing my money.


Again - greifing is defined by CCP, and CCP does *NOT* consider blowing players ships up in Hi-Sec griefing.



Valei Khurelem wrote:
None of this would be happening if wardecs were consentual and that's a fact, all the current wardec system does is cater to lazy ass PvPers who are too cowardly to pick a fight with someone they might actually lose against.

Actually, the "current" war-dec mechanics cater to people who don't want to fight, and can spend money on utilising the mechanics to avoid war.

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Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-02-28 22:11:36 UTC
Anshio Tamark wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.

"Declare peace functionality may be broken"? You're not sure if you can declare peace or not? Good thing you're only testing it on SiSi at the moment. I sure would hate to see this game mechanic suddenly being activated on TQ.

Got another one...

Lol

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#149 - 2012-02-29 00:06:47 UTC
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Liam Mirren
#150 - 2012-02-29 00:24:50 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.


Tuxford for CSM.






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Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#151 - 2012-02-29 00:29:23 UTC
Anshio Tamark wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.

"Declare peace functionality may be broken"? You're not sure if you can declare peace or not? Good thing you're only testing it on SiSi at the moment. I sure would hate to see this game mechanic suddenly being activated on TQ.


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Perkone
Caldari State
#152 - 2012-02-29 03:02:50 UTC
Really, for anyone who thinks war is consensual - study history.
If someone wants your loot, you don't politely decline a war.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#153 - 2012-02-29 05:25:04 UTC
Posting in the best troll thread ive seen in a long time :)

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#154 - 2012-02-29 06:33:51 UTC
good tbh if true.
atm war decs are not workings as intended, they are just used to grief.
granted this measure is a little extreme, i think they should just multiply the wardec price by 10.

they could also do some elaborate system where the average security level of the corp being decced accounts for the war dec price.

I hope this isn't a lie, because if it isn't at least ccp is seeing that war decs atm need a change.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#155 - 2012-02-29 06:35:34 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.


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Bent Barrel
#156 - 2012-02-29 10:26:31 UTC
OP found out there is a "make mutual" option on the right click menu ? By the sound of it, he found the right click menu for the first time ...
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#157 - 2012-02-29 10:43:54 UTC
Let's looks at real-life examples of how wars work. Did the Japanese ask the US if it was okay to attack one of the biggest naval bases in the US? Not as far as I know. Did the US ask the Japanese if it was okay to test a new Weapon of Mass Destruction over a Japanese town? Not as far as I know. Did the US ask if it was okay to invade Iraq? Not as far as I know. So do Capsuleers really need to ask "Can we kill your POS?" before doing it? The attacked ones can just take down their tower and store it in the station while the war is going on. And if they're miners, they probably won't notice it because chances are they're bots (though I know a few people who mine manually).

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#158 - 2012-02-29 11:21:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
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Keno Skir
#159 - 2012-02-29 11:32:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
0oO0oOoOo0o wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.



??? This is crazy. Do you like to kill EVE ??? If the players liked a system like that, where they can be attacked by others without CONCORD interference, they'd live in lowsec or 0.0. Yet the vast majority of players lives in highsec, as proven by various QEN-Reports or a simple look on the map at any time.
Means you are going to FORCE people into something that already exists but is not wanted. What do you think will happen with the amount of players online and the subscriptions ? It doesn't take a crystal ball to see that.


You tit, honestly you need several pinches of salt with that mate...

Anyway, wouldnt it solve the problem almost completely just to raise the cost of wardecs? 2mil is chicken change to any corp more than a month old. 10mil a week which doubles for each additional war (10-20-40-80-160mil a week for 5 concurrent wars) sounds more on target off the top of my head.

While most corps could still afford this if necessary, i think it would cut down on highsec griefers targeting newbie corps for next to no gain.

^ oppinion ;) ^

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Doomheim
#160 - 2012-03-20 17:29:49 UTC
Chiggy W wrote:
Well, it seems that CCP are testing the new wardec mechanics on Sisi right now, and it doesn't look good.

All high sec wars have to consensual between the two parties. IE Corp A dec's corp B, and the war only goes live is corp B agrees to it.

This is so $1000-pant's-on-insane that I really hope it's a joke.

Seriously CCP, the removal of non-consensual wardecs in Eve? What are you guys smoking?? Ugh


Ohhh, noooo. That means you can't seek out easy indy and noob corps and wardec them. If you didn't "SUCK" so bad at pvp you could go to lowsec, nullsec, wormholes, or militia and find plenty.

But hi sec wars are only used by people that are to pathetic to find targets that can shoot back.

They want indy targets, that have little or no skill points in gunnery, and war ships.

You are the most pathetic individuals in this game.