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Power of 2 Third Account what would one do with it?

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Kane Hart
Sanitized Souls
#1 - 2012-02-23 15:28:24 UTC
I don't think I could play 3 accounts very well. But is there actually anything passive you could do very well with a third account? I mean as now pretty much using 1 then I hop onto my second account to do basic salv/looting for my main account or at times I might haul goods on the second account for the first in its indy3.

But besides that I really don't know and I just recently came back to know of a passive way to use a third account. Let alone would it ever be possible make money on the third account passive?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2012-02-23 15:30:09 UTC
PI alts
Scam alts
Cyno alts
Jita/Rens/Dodixie alts
Datacore farming alts
T2/T3 invention alts

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Kane Hart
Sanitized Souls
#3 - 2012-02-23 15:34:01 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
PI alts
Scam alts
Cyno alts
Jita/Rens/Dodixie alts
Datacore farming alts
T2/T3 invention alts


Eh not sure about any of them but PI sounded passive but is this something that can be done in 0.5 or does it have to be done in 0.4 or under? If It can be done in 0.5 or higher can it actually make 500mil a month?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-02-23 20:07:40 UTC
Kane Hart wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
PI alts
Scam alts
Cyno alts
Jita/Rens/Dodixie alts
Datacore farming alts
T2/T3 invention alts


Eh not sure about any of them but PI sounded passive but is this something that can be done in 0.5 or does it have to be done in 0.4 or under? If It can be done in 0.5 or higher can it actually make 500mil a month?


PI can be done on any planet in EVE Online, from 1.0 to -1.0 but keep in mind like most things you compete with others on the planet. They try to mine the same recourses as you do so in general the high-sec planets net profit is lower then those in null-sec, specially with the PoCo's in place now.

And about that 500mil / month from PI, not sure, but I wouldn't count on it in high-sec. Mainly because if it was possible every single player in EVE would do it to pay his accounts meaning the market will be flooded and prices will crash. And as there is always a steady supply from high-sec PI the prices will be quite stable, though demand will be around the same.

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Matalino
#5 - 2012-02-24 17:18:57 UTC
Kane Hart wrote:
Eh not sure about any of them but PI sounded passive but is this something that can be done in 0.5 or does it have to be done in 0.4 or under? If It can be done in 0.5 or higher can it actually make 500mil a month?
PI is only as passive as you make it. Managing planets and hauling products can take up a substancial amount of time if done on a scale that will make +500mil per month.

I haven't done PI in high sec for a long time, but I expect that it is not worth the effort. The planets there do not have very high yields. I would suggest moving to low sec. With a blockade runner, there is very little risk in low sec. What risk there is in low sec helps to make an otherwise boring activity somewhat interesting.

If you have not already filled up your accounts with useful alts, then using the Power of 2 promotion is a good way to fill them up. For 5 PLEX you get 6 months of training and the transfer fee.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2012-02-24 19:31:47 UTC
I am currently maintaining 7 accounts. I typically use 4 clients at a time, and try not to use more than 6 clients at a time, as that kills my computer for some reason.

If you don't know what you would do with another account, you very likely don't need one.

For example, I have an account dedicated to training alts for my other accounts.
Shinjo Bajahnhosuu
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-24 21:35:21 UTC
Train up hulk miners for sale on the Character Bazaar.
Kylon Parltri
Task Force MK7
#8 - 2012-02-25 19:38:02 UTC
I have the power of 3! I am using the third to train alts and probably wont keep it past 6 months, however I may change my mind if I find good use of a third account. I am going to use 2 mains, one for pvp/combat and the 2nd for industry type stuff.

I started 2 trial accounts a few days before this power of 2 deal.. so now I must role yet more characters on yet more accounts XD. The good news is I can role through those starter career missions in no time now.
Dersk
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-26 04:26:06 UTC
Spend the free time training a character capable of running 10 manufacturing slots with the pre-reqs for construction components or capital parts assembly.

Transfer said character to a permanent account once time expires.

Run 7-day long manufacturing jobs once every seven days.

Such a character makes a good candidate for neutral freighter hauling, as well.
Toshiro GreyHawk
#10 - 2012-02-28 11:54:53 UTC



OK ...

The first thing to do is come up with a reason you really want another account.

When evaluating this reason - ask yourself - can I do this with one of the alternate characters on my existing accounts? That is - given the fact that you can only train one character at a time - and only use one character at a time from a single account - is what I want to do with this character productive with an existing account?

If your current characters aren't all that well trained - then you are better off getting them trained up in whatever it is they are doing - to the point where they are productive - that is pulling in a good chunk of money or doing a good job of whatever there reason for existence is.

Now - if you've already got a character well trained and out doing what you want them to be doing - and, incidentally pulling in enough cash to support these other characters you're thinking about creating during their early days ... which is what's going to happen ... then there are a number, especially of passive activities - that can be accomplished with your existing accounts.



The BIG reason you need another account - is that you have to have someone logged on at the same time as someone else - and/or - you can't spare the training time to get another character up to speed on an existing account right now.

When needing someone to be logged in at the same time - those are mostly for active tasks where you are using your alts together to accomplish something.



Another factor though is - ease of use. There are some activities where you could do it serially using the characters from one account or you could do it in parallel using characters from different accounts.

Price Check Alts are an example. You don't HAVE to have all your Price Check Alts logged in at the same time - but - if you are comparing prices between different locations - it can make it easier.


The next consideration is - how hard is the task? There are some tasks that on the surface require only a modicum of training - yet - to be performed at a more advanced level - much, much more training is often required.

For example - PI - in High Sec - you just need the PI skills and that's about it ... at least until it comes time to SELL your stuff - then some Trade skills might come in handy.

Also - for Data Core Research Alts - there is the fact that you get more Research Points from a higher level Agent - than you do from a lower level one - and the only way to raise your standings with that corporation - is to run missions for them. Thus - while it might be fairly easy to just get a Level II agent to do research for you - getting a higher level agent might require you to run more missions. Now - here - you don't have to go out get in a Battle Cruiser and run Level III missions to gain standings with a corporation. You can do that in a destroyer running Level I's ... it's just that running Level I's isn't going to make you much money itself. And - of course - while researching Data Cores is relatively passive if you don't run the Research Agents missions - running missions to get to a higher level agent - isn't passive.


Here we have a situation where - it's easy to get into some things on a trivial level - but what are you going to be getting out of it at that level? What is the investment in training, time and money you'll need to make something really pay off?


For the most part ... if there was a way for just anyone to get filthy stinking rich their first day playing the game - CCP would have nerfed it a long time ago - and we wouldn't even know about it now. What that means is that there are no magic bullets - no magic wands you can wave and have riches just fall into your lap. Most of the people who are doing really well in the game - have been at it a while, took some time to learn what they were doing - and made mistakes along the way.




Now ... as long as we're talking about multiple accounts ... there are a few things to think about should you decide to use all your accounts at the same time - which is what is really cool about having multiple accounts. Here - you have some activities that lend themselves better to some endeavors than others.

Mining - works really well with multiple accounts. You can alt tab between accounts on one machine and control multiple ships. If you're doing it in a nice, (relatively) safe system than your response time while moving from one account to the other doesn't matter as much ... most of the time. If it suddenly doese matter - then you may lose some ships. In any case though - the activity itself doesn't require you to rapidly move from one ship to another.

Mission Running - works moderately well with a few ships - but doesn't scale as well as mining and alt-tabbing is going to be much more dangerous. Here - if you've at least got multiple monitors - things work better. Multiple computers is better still.

PVP - you really want to know what you're doing before trying to do PVP with more than one ship. Not really knowing what you're doing and trying PVP with multiple ships - is a good way to lose multiple ships.



So - you've also got hardware to consider. If you've got a really old system ... you are going to be less happy with your results than if you have a new system - or multiple systems. Mostly ... what you have to do ... is to see how well your equipment works with multiple accounts using different methods. Here - you want to add accounts one at a time - seeing how well you manage the ones you've got before adding another.

Then of course - there is YOU the player. What is your ability to multi-task? You could have all kinds of brand new, hot computers but only be able to manage so many ships at once. For myself - I've found that how tired I am is a factor. If I'm really tired - there are somethings I don't try to do. When I'm not tired - I'm more ambitious.

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ACESsiggy
Deaths Consortium
#11 - 2012-02-28 16:19:14 UTC
Already using 2 accounts and you're a "new citizen of EvE" lol ?

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-02-28 16:20:35 UTC
ACESsiggy wrote:
Already using 2 accounts and you're a "new citizen of EvE" lol ?


lol, you do know even old guys can post stuff in here.

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