EVE General Discussion

hi community

Well its a long story but after 3 years of paying and playing i am now very seriously considering cancelling all of my subscriptions if for no reason but sick of the griefbox.

my Eve experience
I'll put it out their, I am a carebear. I hate risk simply because I do not want to lose anything and turn this "game" into a second job and i despise the idea of RMT. To me a game should be entertaining, not a choir and i certainly do not want to "work a game". After 3 years of carebearing I managed to build up near 4 bill isk in assets and money by avoiding conflict and attempting to create an enjoyable game for myself. after all it's a sandbox, you do what you want, well at least until about a year ago.

The corp i was a member of got our very first highsec war dec, all very exciting at first. Great, so we had at it, grouped up and took out a few of our enemies ships, but loses were against us so it turned into a station camp. We were stuck in station or guarantee loosing anything you took outside. Enlisting assistance from a Merc corp was too expensive for us. So what do you do? We ended up knuckling down and started offline leveling to deny our foe kills. This of course was the turning point for around 40 characters in the corp.

Slowly but surely members began losing interest until one day our CEO stopped coming online due to real life interests. Fair enough. By the time a new CEO was voted in approximately half of our members had either moved on individually or canceled subs out of a loss of interest. But not all of us. We needed to change.

We created a new corp, invited old members, again losing some members with the idea of steping into a new frontier of wormhole space. Why worm holes? Well the more older characters in our corp had spent time in null sec and hated it. The numbers game was boring and they lost interest fast and moved back into high sec. So we thought hey, lets try wormholes. As it turns out that was a challenge we were not able to figure out.

How do you wormhole guys do it? We tried so freaking hard to create a base of operations and only ended up losing everything we threw at it. We scanned down systems and moved in only to find we had no where to put our stuff! Station was too high risk to lose at this stage and we just ended up flying into systems where large corporations were established and quickly wiped us out. It was seriously hard, no safe points as we were scanned down nearly instantly. We could not figure out how to setup a base of operations. It was not fun. So we left while we still could afford to buy more ships. This was the straw that broke the camels back. We have failed to establish a wormhole home.

Some of us left for other corps, some of us just did what I did and started offline leveling. I then tried out a larger corp however it too seemed to have some random drama and disbanded. At this stage I was care-less due to how the little I was playing. That was at least a year ago today. Since then I have nearly offline leveled a cap pilot and mindlessly mined high sec ore just to do something. Now it has moved to the tipping point naturally.

In summary, noobed into Eve, greifed in wardec and other highsec spoils such as missions jacking. Could not figure out worm holes even tho I desperately tried. No interest in the numbers game in null sec. I have no aspirations to pirate/grief other players.

What am I missing?

So why bother posting in the forum? To be honest I am seeking help from fellow capsuleers as a last step before I cancel to see if I am just missing something. Maybe its just time I put Eve down and grow up? Maybe i will get nothing but trolls and abuse, if so thanks ill take my money away from your game developers and give it to someone else. If not griefing I'll certainly listen to your advice.

Help.

you're doing wrong ofc.
1. buy at least 10 t1 frigs (better 20) with cheap fits. i recommend you to try rifter, incursus, punisher, merlin all good frigs.
2. go roam lowsec solo (solo is the key word here).
3.you will lose alot of them but this is normal.
4. profit

Find a decent Corp and the rest will follow.

Hello Karintha,

Rather than try to post a reasonable response here, I have emailed you.

o/

EVE is not the game for you then. Simple as.

Hear hear :D

If risk is not your thing well fine but there is little to do in Eve that's fun without risking your ass to the guns of someone with a bigger and deadlier ass.

WH's need a POS up in it if you really want to live in one. A cloaky Orca can do fine and I've heard of people living this way in wormholes but I'd be weary of people scanning it when you log off :(

You need a decent corp tbh.

To be honest mate, your problem was you were living in high sec for too long, carebearism is not something you are born with, it's something you get from spending too much time doing nothing but PvE (killing rats, mining belts)

For people who only do these things, all the other mechanics in the game become distant to them, they become oblivious to how the game really is, and whats going on around them in rest of the eve universe

I started out in high sec myself many years ago, back then I got into eve because of some real life friends, they were in a big danish high sec corp... I liked it, but only because of the social aspect of things, we had a op one time where they needed logistic support, so I got into an the tech 1 amarr cruiser (energy transfere) and I loved it... I then started training for a guardian... some months passed, and I become bored... all we were doing was mining, and level 4 missions... so I took my first battlecruiser (a harbinger) into low sec :D where soon I would get killed by the first frigate I decided to shoot at lol

"See this story goes on, its been a slow and long developement for me to become a 0.0-low sec pvp'er but heres the rest of my story lol"

Then me and my irl friends made a new corp with another irl friend who had been in BoB for a long time, but he wanted to do stuff with us, it wasn't long before we moved into low sec with him and the corp, only because of his guidance, "carebears gonna care"... it was fun, I was having fun in eve for the first time :D we weren't good at anything, but it was fun! it wasn't long before we joined a 0.0 alliance for the first time, and tried out real 0.0 roams and battles, we were still bad at eve...

speed things up to 1-2 years ago , had been in TNT for a while, and then my corp decided to join (can't remmeber when exactly, but the time when TEST first moved into deklein, we joined days later)

I became a test puppie basicly :) I had already had alot of 0.0 experience, but I was still a carebear, the effects of having been a carebear in the beginning of my eve time are long lasting, but now I was just a 0.0 carebear, careing about earning isk with carriers and pimped battleships... it wasn't until one fateful day when a freighter with 8-10bil of my assests got ganked in high sec (a guy I trusted flying it) that something clicked inside me, I stopped careing about earning isk... and started careing about destroying isk... I still had isk, and income, sure 8-10bil was a big loss of my personal wealth... but I started flying solo, started trying to kill anything I could, while still being in TEST... It felt great :3 people from my corp still calling me a carebear ofc eventhough I hadn't carebeared in months, being the top 1-3 on the killboard of a very large alliance for a few months... being called a leetpvp'er (eventhough often said ironicly) and all the attention I got (includeing hate... haters gonna hate)

I am still bad at eve, but I have fun... and I continue to have fun :) my suggestion to everyone... high sec is bad for you if that is the only place you spend your time, you become bad at eve... potentially for the rest of your life.

... I remember for a short duration, our old CEO from the danish corp I had first joined in EVE, joined our 0.0 corp/alliance, he was space rich, but he didn't know how to play eve, all he did was mine, and dock in the station whenever someone came within 1-3 jumps of where he was... he had spent all his time in high sec, since 2003... he was beyond repair

PS... when im bored I write long pointless posts that no one wants to read :D

Just take a break from EVE. At some point you'll get a hankering for it again, then when you come back try something different from what you tried before - or even try the same thing, but with different people.

EVE is never boring so long as you have a "plan". As soon as you stop having a "plan" it gets boring. The "plan" can be either something you cook up yourself, or something given to you by a corp. But as long as you have some goal in the future, something to work towards, it's all good.

It is the only real s-f game in town at the moment, so you will keep coming back to it if you like s-f

Go back and start with your ABC's

Thats... A Battle Cruiser!

If you do the same thing and make yourself a victim for three years then I'm not surprised you are sick of the game.

Find an easier way to make ISK then pay for the game with PLEX and do things that can't be better done by a macro. You say you don't want the game to be a chore and yet you spent 3 years labouring away mining rocks to earn a pittance.

What is the point of making 4 billion if you don't want to go have some fun blowing stuff up?

If PVP really isn't your thing then at least push yourself to go do some of the higher level DED exploration sites or something.

You just havnt tryed very hard to find some people with the same interests, short and long term.

eve is what you make of it, and the players make eve what it is :)