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Get your PvP on in the Great Wildlands region!
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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#21 - 2012-02-27 09:37:40 UTC
Oddly, I kinda liked it there. But camping (station, gate, or otherwise) is the name of the game out there. Bring scouts and a fleet and the typical cloaky sabre campers won't bother you.

Oh, and one of the NRDS corps in N-DQ has had black ops and carriers. blops got killed. But the carrier is still alive. They love station games.

There are good fights to be had if you are persistent. Go visit GW. It's a nice place to visit.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#22 - 2012-02-27 14:12:42 UTC
All trolling aside, INK will undock and fight almost anything that comes their way, but there is not much action outside the station systems.
TR/RE-AL are pretty much dead last I heard c/d?

Miss you guys <3 <3 <3

And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#23 - 2012-02-27 19:55:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Teufel
had a decent fight last night. both sides had 2 logi boats. could have gone either way but the smart bombs killing their ECM drones is what turned it in our favor.

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Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-02-27 20:17:37 UTC
Syndicate is better... Its like there is a money back guaruntee if you don't get a fight there.

NPC Delve is good as well.

Curse and Stain are both fun if you like larger fleet engagements.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#25 - 2012-02-27 21:05:56 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Syndicate is better... Its like there is a money back guaruntee if you don't get a fight there.

NPC Delve is good as well.

Curse and Stain are both fun if you like larger fleet engagements.


Problem with several of those "small scale" tho, particulary in Curse, is the Falcon/ECM involved.

When people start do 1-5 vs 1-5 and no ECM involved, we'll be looking into more permanent stay, rather than temporary visits.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#26 - 2012-02-27 21:51:39 UTC
Misanth wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Syndicate is better... Its like there is a money back guaruntee if you don't get a fight there.

NPC Delve is good as well.

Curse and Stain are both fun if you like larger fleet engagements.


Problem with several of those "small scale" tho, particulary in Curse, is the Falcon/ECM involved.

When people start do 1-5 vs 1-5 and no ECM involved, we'll be looking into more permanent stay, rather than temporary visits.


ECM is in the game and you are going to run into it. even if you loose 2 or 3 BC for killing their falcon you may still come out on top isk wise. I've had a Black Op battleship gang drop on me and come out on top. they had the advantage in intel, numbers, dps, reps, jams. we took their arazu and sin for two of our BCs. 7 of us in BCs with 1 falcon V 8 BO battleships, 2 Arazu (including widow.)

another good example was a fight against TR. they had logi, ecm, more dps but we still came out on top because we killed their two most expensive ships then got the fleet out or what was left of it. now at the end of the fight we learned one of us lost a 2bill isk pod and so we did not come out on top isk wise but I hope you get the point.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#27 - 2012-02-28 08:58:01 UTC
Red Teufel wrote:
Misanth wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Syndicate is better... Its like there is a money back guaruntee if you don't get a fight there.

NPC Delve is good as well.

Curse and Stain are both fun if you like larger fleet engagements.


Problem with several of those "small scale" tho, particulary in Curse, is the Falcon/ECM involved.

When people start do 1-5 vs 1-5 and no ECM involved, we'll be looking into more permanent stay, rather than temporary visits.


ECM is in the game and you are going to run into it. even if you loose 2 or 3 BC for killing their falcon you may still come out on top isk wise. I've had a Black Op battleship gang drop on me and come out on top. they had the advantage in intel, numbers, dps, reps, jams. we took their arazu and sin for two of our BCs. 7 of us in BCs with 1 falcon V 8 BO battleships, 2 Arazu (including widow.)

another good example was a fight against TR. they had logi, ecm, more dps but we still came out on top because we killed their two most expensive ships then got the fleet out or what was left of it. now at the end of the fight we learned one of us lost a 2bill isk pod and so we did not come out on top isk wise but I hope you get the point.


You should've read what I typed instead of replied with some drivel. I explicitly stated "small scale" and 1-5 vs 1-5. Falcons and ECM is fine past a certain number (if you are five or more, the effect of a single ECM is quite low). Me and my friends generally run small scale PvP, and I mean real small scale, not the mini-blobs people call small scale nowadays. I'm talking oldschool 1-2 players vs whatever. In that size, ECM is a no go. Anything that looks like ever fielding ECM, at all, will automaticly lose out on what could've been a potential fight vs us.

And since this thread was mentioning small scale, and since I replied talking small scale, that seemed relevant. Anything miniblob (5-15) is irrelevant in that regard. And fleet stuff (15+) won't even be mentioned. If you reply to "small scale" and "1-5" by mentioning fights that has both logistics, ecm, and was 8 vs 10, you lost all credibility by default. Have fun miniblobbing. You won't ever bring logi or ECM yourself when you do 1-2 man, you might add an ECM if you do 3-5 but you are still not reaching the 'logi level'. When you reach the numbers when those become a factor, you have already lost out any kind of potential small scale fighting you could've had.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#28 - 2012-02-28 14:29:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Teufel
Misanth wrote:
Red Teufel wrote:
Misanth wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Syndicate is better... Its like there is a money back guaruntee if you don't get a fight there.

NPC Delve is good as well.

Curse and Stain are both fun if you like larger fleet engagements.


Problem with several of those "small scale" tho, particulary in Curse, is the Falcon/ECM involved.

When people start do 1-5 vs 1-5 and no ECM involved, we'll be looking into more permanent stay, rather than temporary visits.


ECM is in the game and you are going to run into it. even if you loose 2 or 3 BC for killing their falcon you may still come out on top isk wise. I've had a Black Op battleship gang drop on me and come out on top. they had the advantage in intel, numbers, dps, reps, jams. we took their arazu and sin for two of our BCs. 7 of us in BCs with 1 falcon V 8 BO battleships, 2 Arazu (including widow.)

another good example was a fight against TR. they had logi, ecm, more dps but we still came out on top because we killed their two most expensive ships then got the fleet out or what was left of it. now at the end of the fight we learned one of us lost a 2bill isk pod and so we did not come out on top isk wise but I hope you get the point.


You should've read what I typed instead of replied with some drivel. I explicitly stated "small scale" and 1-5 vs 1-5. Falcons and ECM is fine past a certain number (if you are five or more, the effect of a single ECM is quite low). Me and my friends generally run small scale PvP, and I mean real small scale, not the mini-blobs people call small scale nowadays. I'm talking oldschool 1-2 players vs whatever. In that size, ECM is a no go. Anything that looks like ever fielding ECM, at all, will automaticly lose out on what could've been a potential fight vs us.

And since this thread was mentioning small scale, and since I replied talking small scale, that seemed relevant. Anything miniblob (5-15) is irrelevant in that regard. And fleet stuff (15+) won't even be mentioned. If you reply to "small scale" and "1-5" by mentioning fights that has both logistics, ecm, and was 8 vs 10, you lost all credibility by default. Have fun miniblobbing. You won't ever bring logi or ECM yourself when you do 1-2 man, you might add an ECM if you do 3-5 but you are still not reaching the 'logi level'. When you reach the numbers when those become a factor, you have already lost out any kind of potential small scale fighting you could've had.


wow i've never been called a "mini blobber" before. not sure how i should take it. anyways if someone is going to bring in isk value worth over twice the ammount compared to you, you're probably going have trouble fighting them ECM or not. 1-5 yes you can take logi like 1 scimi or RR BS gang if you really wanted to. what's stopping you from taking your own falcon or arazu if you are so concerned about ecm? You're not going to come to GW and get easy kills with a 2 man gang. you'll have to put some work into it and pick your fights. One group will use a SB and a t1 cruiser in our home system and get kills. we havn't caught him yet but we will eventually >:)

If you need some advice on how to do small gang pvp watch sard caid's stream. Link
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#29 - 2012-02-28 16:06:28 UTC
Fun times last night :)

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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#30 - 2012-02-29 15:04:16 UTC
Red Teufel wrote:
[quote=Misanth][quote=Xolve]Syndicate is better... Its like there is a money back guaruntee if you don't get a fight there.

another good example was a fight against TR. they had logi, ecm, more dps but we still came out on top because we killed their two most expensive ships then got the fleet out or what was left of it. now at the end of the fight we learned one of us lost a 2bill isk pod and so we did not come out on top isk wise but I hope you get the point.


You won because you killed their most expensive ships but they won the isk battle by killing a 2 billion iso pod? Hmm. Sounds like they just won. You ran.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#31 - 2012-02-29 15:52:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Teufel
Ban Bindy wrote:
Red Teufel wrote:
[quote=Misanth][quote=Xolve]Syndicate is better... Its like there is a money back guaruntee if you don't get a fight there.

another good example was a fight against TR. they had logi, ecm, more dps but we still came out on top because we killed their two most expensive ships then got the fleet out or what was left of it. now at the end of the fight we learned one of us lost a 2bill isk pod and so we did not come out on top isk wise but I hope you get the point.


You won because you killed their most expensive ships but they won the isk battle by killing a 2 billion iso pod? Hmm. Sounds like they just won. You ran.


we won the isk war in that fight untill we found out we lost a 2 bill isk pod. so in the end we didn't win anything and they ran us off. the point was that even if you are outmatched it's still possible to come out on top.
Miss Redisposable
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-02-29 22:47:56 UTC
TL:DR Some smallscale pew alliance is bored cos their chosen region is ******, please go let them kill you
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