Intergalactic Summit

Thankyou, Ms. Lagann.

It seems as though you're unwilling to engage in an actual discussion or debate on the moral bankruptcy of the Empire, Mr Cresthill. So I'll just leave you to roll in your own foul smelling iniquity.

Birdsong.

Alright. Answer me this question. In your eyes where were the souls of all those killed in the Starkmanir Genocide sent: Heaven or Hell?

Ok, I'll compromise. The Majority, heaven or hell.

For that answer, you will have to seek God.

Sample size of...wait for it...two =/= statistically valid representation.

Not that I can blame them really, it just seems a bit juvenile, is all.

Have you ever been to the Cresthill estate and observed the Cresthill brothers in the fields working with the held ones? No. My father and uncles are two hours on the worksite before and after slaves arrive for each day's work. They work themselves harder than any slave is worked. Are held ones are fed better, cared for better, educated better than any Caldari or Gallentean serf. Automation would be far more profitable for our family holdings but not better. Those who live on the Cresthill estate see the "walk" every day and most quickly come to believe the legitimacy of our faith because of what they see. How many of you capsuleer pilots give a rip about your crews? How many Corporate executives roll up their sleeves with their employees?

You and others like you through profanity in the face of anyone you hate or disagree with Mr. Nightstick. Do you think "standard employee contracts" like corps use such as Ishukone et.al. that drive emplyees to deal drugs and commit crimes just to make ends meet, enlightened? Do you think marking a teenager with a mark of disgrace then driving them to a life of silence or prostitution enlightened? Do you think telling a boys and girls that the secret to life is going to parties and getting drunk and then wonder why they grow us to hate life, enlightened? The Gallente, Caldari, and Matari "values" constantly get pushed into our faces, so you will excuse me if I do a little pushing myself.

And show a little self-control in your language, Mr. if you are so superior.

As far as your first question is concerned, I am confident that God knows the answer to who chooses Heaven and who chooses hell. Why don't you answer it for yourself. Why are you pressing for a percentage? If you are an optimist, you say more than half if a pessimist, less than half. Why would you want me to guess at such a thing? You make your own guess if it is so important to you. God knows those who would have chosen to believe in him and those who who have chosen to reject him. That is good enough for me. You have said nothing of the substance of my explanation. I think you just be disagreeable.

Now to the second part: "Everyone in the Federation is a free and equal citizen"? Please tell me you are joking. If you are not then you are deluded. The Federation is rife with human right abuses, prostitution, poverty, illegal slavery, human trafficking, worker abuse. Every social ill is present in the Federation. Tell me you are not that out of touch with reality that you would think that everyone in the Federation is a free and equal citizen. Tell me you are not that naive.

Follow your own advice and stop assuming that Federation propaganda is so rock solid true. I have visited your Federation and observed your "glorious" free society. There are very few very wealthy people and a majority of very poor people. Big deal, they can vote, woohoo. You, on the other hand, have no idea of what righteous holding is all about. You have no idea of the generalizations you are making. While, yes, there are some false holders who abuse their legal rights, most holders truly are motivated by the burden of caring for and guiding the wayward ones God has placed in their care. Most holder sacrifice profit for the sake of those they hold. You see only one side and you assume only what your preconceived notions allow you to assume. The branch growing from your eye is firmly rooted in generations of Federation propaganda entrenched in their educational system that declares that Gallente society is superior to all. True holders are taught to view their burden as a humble call. When we "take pride" in something, it isn't a self-absorbed arrogance, but a humble realization that we don't deserve God's call but are happy to be involved in it. No Cresthill holder would dream of violating a woman, abusing a held one, starving or mistreating anyone. The discipline intended to lead our held ones to God is a discipline shared by the Cresthill holders themselves.

Only a splinter in your eye? Beware lest hypocrisy overwhelm you, miss.

Yea, I see that. Alright Mr. Cresthill. Do you think the genocide of the Starkmanir was justifiable?

Also, as to your attack on Federal socio-economic policies. I am a believer in a doctrine known as the re-distribution of wealth. Whereby the rich are taxed much more heavily than those less well off, and that money is used to help the less well off with things like healthcare, policing and financial aid should they need it.

It is hypocritical in the extreme to argue that the Federation is riven with inequality when the Empire is without a doubt the most financially unequal Empire in New Eden, were some people residing in the Empire are not even allowed to earn money. And some privately own entire systems.

No, it is not. Answer the question: would you have given the order that Ardishapur did?