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New wardec system on Sisi

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Doomheim
#61 - 2012-02-27 19:25:00 UTC
9/10 for your corpie
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-02-27 19:25:50 UTC
Andski wrote:
make concord mercenaries

you buy their protection


Perhaps after insurance there is another option to purchase a faster response time from concord?

Maybe even make that have a counter bribe option so a group/individual can prevent the faster response time.

Perhaps, maybe even make it a slower than normal response time. Twisted

And this is no one time fee. You will have to repay the fee/bribe everytime it has been used.

Makes the carebears feel safe, but is easily counterable if one has the will to do so.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#63 - 2012-02-27 19:30:44 UTC
Elzon1 wrote:
Andski wrote:
make concord mercenaries

you buy their protection


Perhaps after insurance there is another option to purchase a faster response time from concord?

Maybe even make that have a counter bribe option so a group/individual can prevent the faster response time.

Perhaps, maybe even make it a slower than normal response time. Twisted

And this is no one time fee. You will have to repay the fee/bribe everytime it has been used.

Makes the carebears feel safe, but is easily counterable if one has the will to do so.


So instead of sitting outside of stations we'll all be sitting inside a station playing 'let's see who can throw the most money away'. Spreadsheet bid wars doesn't really sound appealing.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

Lexmana
#64 - 2012-02-27 19:33:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
Velicitia wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Andski wrote:
make concord mercenaries

you buy their protection

This!


payment options:
ISK
Doughnuts
Shrubberies

How about 11% of your income for basic protection(0.5). Gate guns and station guns is extra. And if you want special treatment (1.0) it is even more. And if someone outbids you ....
Velicitia
XS Tech
#65 - 2012-02-27 19:35:26 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Andski wrote:
make concord mercenaries

you buy their protection

This!


payment options:
ISK
Doughnuts
Shrubberies

How about 11% of your income for basic protection(0.5). Gate guns and station guns is extra. And if you want special treatment (1.0) it is even more.


Gate/Station work anywhere in empire (because, well, that's how it works already) ... so let's not mess with that.
"Concord Tax" could work ... but why pay?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Glarealot
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2012-02-27 19:43:27 UTC
I love this change. =D Might see a revival in high sec corps again, and less folks hanging out in NPC corps.

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Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-02-27 19:44:57 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
Elzon1 wrote:
Andski wrote:
make concord mercenaries

you buy their protection


Perhaps after insurance there is another option to purchase a faster response time from concord?

Maybe even make that have a counter bribe option so a group/individual can prevent the faster response time.

Perhaps, maybe even make it a slower than normal response time. Twisted

And this is no one time fee. You will have to repay the fee/bribe everytime it has been used.

Makes the carebears feel safe, but is easily counterable if one has the will to do so.


So instead of sitting outside of stations we'll all be sitting inside a station playing 'let's see who can throw the most money away'. Spreadsheet bid wars doesn't really sound appealing.


What is war without calculating risk vs. war?

Answer: TOTALHELLDEATH!!!

The reason TOTALHELLDEATH never really occurs is because stupid only lasts so far as it's resources can take it.

"Spreadsheet bid wars"- Thats pretty much EVE right there.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2012-02-27 19:47:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
Andski wrote:
make concord mercenaries

you buy their protection


We do, it's called taxation and presumably escrow charges seeing as it's the SCC who regulate trade. But they do this from a point of view of neutrality to ensure a safe and universally regulated trade environment.

Technically its not really protection, more disincentivization, due to it being a delayed policing responce to criminal activity as opposed to prevention of criminal activity in the first place. And also the confirmed position of allowing people to have hostilies as a result of war declerations to de-criminalise hostilities without intervention as a result. This since the definition of the word protection applies to keeping something safe, but this isn't the case even with the Concord presence. Nor am I advocating it should be even with the literal contradiction as a result when looking at the SCC mandate.

But then I'm assuming your criminal mind is simply warping what would be the correct interpretation of lore as opposed to seeing it for what it is. P


Glad to hear war decs are not consensual however.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#69 - 2012-02-27 19:58:47 UTC
Xolve wrote:
This thread needs more butt mad npc corp pubbies crying "griefers! griefers!"




FYI you're a pubbie too, as you're not a member of Goonswarm - being their little pet doesn't really count, I'm afraid.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Lexmana
#70 - 2012-02-27 19:58:57 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Andski wrote:
make concord mercenaries

you buy their protection

This!


payment options:
ISK
Doughnuts
Shrubberies

How about 11% of your income for basic protection(0.5). Gate guns and station guns is extra. And if you want special treatment (1.0) it is even more.


Gate/Station work anywhere in empire (because, well, that's how it works already) ... so let's not mess with that.
"Concord Tax" could work ... but why pay?


You pay to get your CONCORD sticker you put on your bumper. It is worth a lot for some people. If you don't pay, gate/station guns will look the other way. I expect this to transfer to lowsec aswell.

Also, you can't .01 ISK CONCORD for them to abandon their customer. It is more like double or tripple the original offer.


Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#71 - 2012-02-27 20:01:17 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
CATPAIN KIRK wrote:
i think the real jim kirk is dead. just for you're information.


You might want to tell that to the "priceline negotiator".


(hint, it's the same guy)


He's dead there too, as of the last commercial.

Or to put it another way...

You're dead Jim... again.

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Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-02-27 20:05:44 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
FYI you're a pubbie too, as you're not a member of Goonswarm - being their little pet doesn't really count, I'm afraid.



Confirming the Goon community only exists in EvE: Online, and nowhere else. We are absolutely not a externally based community on pay-to-play forums. Way to look informative though, :GoonHate:.

:HappySun:
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#73 - 2012-02-27 20:17:52 UTC
hrmm ever since my sec status went down the drain, I've felt like all of eve has been at war with me and i like it.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#74 - 2012-02-27 20:22:29 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
CATPAIN KIRK wrote:
i think the real jim kirk is dead. just for you're information.


You might want to tell that to the "priceline negotiator".


(hint, it's the same guy)


He's dead there too, as of the last commercial.

Or to put it another way...

You're dead Jim... again.



Priceline negotiator is yes, Shatner is doing fine.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-02-27 20:42:27 UTC
CCP Tuxford, you are my hero! :swoon:
CATPAIN KIRK
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2012-02-27 20:49:10 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:


Seriously though - "Cat pain" Kirk?



AWW - FECK! I just notcied!
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#77 - 2012-02-27 20:50:01 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.


I so wish this.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.

Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#78 - 2012-02-27 21:02:25 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
errm what?

What info are you referring to because this doesn't sound right.

YOU TELL'EM!

In fact the new default is to be at war with everyone. When you create a corp you are at war with everybody in the known universe and you need to declare peace.

also declare peace functionality may be broken.


This would be great if it was based on tax rates.

20% tax rate, enjoy your eve.
10% tax rate, lowsec and down you are red to everyone
5% tax rate, don't venture past 0.7
0% tax rate, red to everyone outside of 1.0 systems
(red as in wardec red).

Profit favors the prepared

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#79 - 2012-02-27 21:06:33 UTC
This thread went from shock to super funny, to making me sad now.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **

Velicitia
XS Tech
#80 - 2012-02-27 21:07:16 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:

Priceline negotiator is yes, Shatner is doing fine.


born 1931 o_O

hard to believe the guy is 80, and still doing things...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia