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An interesting statistic I'd like to see
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Utemetsu
#1 - 2012-02-24 18:36:49 UTC
Ok, so those of you who listen to any news in the real world must be familiar with the whole 1% issue. Before going further, this isn't supposed to be a discussion on whether or not it's right or true, furthermore, we should refrain from discussion of Real-world politics as much as possible.

That said,
New Eden has a very interesting standpoint and could offer some interesting (read: important) information regarding basic human interraction with money. Now, I do understand that this IS a game, and that obviously there are factors within EVE that just do not translate through the keyboard-brain barrier. However, I would like to see, if possible, Some 'Wage' statistics -- What constitutes EVE's 1%? How much do they have, and how much do they make? Where does the rest of the Galaxy fall in underneath them, in terms of income and net value?

It may give some valuable insight, if nothing else, in how a truly free market would operate here, on Earth. Then again, this is mostly just rhetoric and an interesting set of numbers.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-24 18:49:20 UTC
No.
Steve Celeste
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-02-24 19:06:13 UTC
Yes.
Utemetsu
#4 - 2012-02-24 19:07:45 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
No.

Steve Celeste wrote:
Yes.


Maybe?
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-02-24 19:25:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Nex apparatu5
There were some numbers floating around the forums earlier, let me see if I can dig them up.

Edit: Are you looking for something like this? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66491

Of course, that's only isk, most people have a lot of value in assets. But it serves as a good indicator.
Tidurious
Blatant Alt Corp
#6 - 2012-02-24 19:33:51 UTC
You'll NEVER be able to gain any useful insite from EVE markets that can be applied to RL markets. Why?

1. EVE NEVER has unemployment. There's always an ISK faucet that is handy and accessible for anyone.
2. There's really no 'overhead' in EVE. No heating bills, no food costs, etc. Nothing that bleeds ISK from everyone (and a substantial amount, for most) without significant reward (other than staying alive, etc.)
3. The ability to instantly generate around 450-500m ISK when you want something through 'currency exchange' (RL money --> PLEX)

Sorry, but everyone in EVE has the ABILITY to have as much ISK as they damn well please, with little to no cost associated with life, etc. No RL comparison can really be made between EVE economy and RL economy, ever. Occasionally things to seem to 'line up' between the two, but it's coincidence and not an actual relation.
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#7 - 2012-02-24 20:21:31 UTC
I believe someone tried to calculate it, but had problems because large amount of money are hidden in corp wallets that cannot be checked.

Of what I remember though in the calculation not being able to take corp wallets into consideration, not even the 10% richest had close to all the wealth in Eve.

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stoicfaux
#8 - 2012-02-25 01:58:27 UTC
Tidurious wrote:

1. EVE NEVER has unemployment. There's always an ISK faucet that is handy and accessible for anyone.

*cough* downtime *cough* That's a ~4.2% average unemployment rate. Bear

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
clamslayer
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-02-25 03:35:39 UTC  |  Edited by: clamslayer
I would like to see that statistic as well, and where I rank with my wealth
OfBalance
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-02-25 04:06:42 UTC
clamslayer wrote:
I would like to see that statistic as well, and where I rank with my welth


I'm sure an educated gentleman such as yourself would rank quite highly.
clamslayer
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-25 05:33:16 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
clamslayer wrote:
I would like to see that statistic as well, and where I rank with my welth


I'm sure an educated gentleman such as yourself would rank quite highly.



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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-25 09:26:59 UTC
Tidurious wrote:
2. There's really no 'overhead' in EVE. No heating bills, no food costs, etc. Nothing that bleeds ISK from everyone (and a substantial amount, for most) without significant reward (other than staying alive, etc.)

pretty much the definition of PLEX^^

bleeds nearly 1.5b/month right out of my pocket just so I can stay alive.

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OfBalance
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-02-25 19:16:14 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Tidurious wrote:
2. There's really no 'overhead' in EVE. No heating bills, no food costs, etc. Nothing that bleeds ISK from everyone (and a substantial amount, for most) without significant reward (other than staying alive, etc.)

pretty much the definition of PLEX^^

bleeds nearly 1.5b/month right out of my pocket just so I can stay alive.


It would be great if your characters died after a week or two of being unsubscribed, right?
Amon Tyr
#14 - 2012-02-27 15:41:05 UTC
Utemetsu wrote:
Ok, so those of you who listen to any news in the real world must be familiar with the whole 1% issue. Before going further, this isn't supposed to be a discussion on whether or not it's right or true, furthermore, we should refrain from discussion of Real-world politics as much as possible.

That said,
New Eden has a very interesting standpoint and could offer some interesting (read: important) information regarding basic human interraction with money. Now, I do understand that this IS a game, and that obviously there are factors within EVE that just do not translate through the keyboard-brain barrier. However, I would like to see, if possible, Some 'Wage' statistics -- What constitutes EVE's 1%? How much do they have, and how much do they make? Where does the rest of the Galaxy fall in underneath them, in terms of income and net value?

It may give some valuable insight, if nothing else, in how a truly free market would operate here, on Earth. Then again, this is mostly just rhetoric and an interesting set of numbers.

What is the whole 1% issue again?
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#15 - 2012-02-27 16:44:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Slavemaster
Amon Tyr wrote:
Utemetsu wrote:
Ok, so those of you who listen to any news in the real world must be familiar with the whole 1% issue. Before going further, this isn't supposed to be a discussion on whether or not it's right or true, furthermore, we should refrain from discussion of Real-world politics as much as possible.

That said,
New Eden has a very interesting standpoint and could offer some interesting (read: important) information regarding basic human interraction with money. Now, I do understand that this IS a game, and that obviously there are factors within EVE that just do not translate through the keyboard-brain barrier. However, I would like to see, if possible, Some 'Wage' statistics -- What constitutes EVE's 1%? How much do they have, and how much do they make? Where does the rest of the Galaxy fall in underneath them, in terms of income and net value?

It may give some valuable insight, if nothing else, in how a truly free market would operate here, on Earth. Then again, this is mostly just rhetoric and an interesting set of numbers.

What is the whole 1% issue again?


If you change the order from 1 to 10000X you have to pay 1% in Brokers fee no matter the skills, or
you standing. Will you be better off canceling an order or updating it.

Oo
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#16 - 2012-02-28 20:51:17 UTC
Amon Tyr wrote:


What is the whole 1% issue again?


Apparently that 99% of humans want to get stuff, but not to keep it.