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How much damage does 1 drone help out a Frigate in a 1v1?
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Jones Bones
Battle Toad Brigade
Ribbit.
#21 - 2012-02-25 14:10:52 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Using just one drone sucks in that it applies very little dps for a lot of mouse clicking the other frig pilots don't have to deal with.


You can set shortcuts to launch and aggress drones. I think mine are Ctrl-L and Ctrl-D. No click \o/
Tsubutai
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-02-25 14:36:42 UTC
Jones Bones wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Using just one drone sucks in that it applies very little dps for a lot of mouse clicking the other frig pilots don't have to deal with.


You can set shortcuts to launch and aggress drones. I think mine are Ctrl-L and Ctrl-D. No click \o/

You can have shortcuts to make drones engage and to recall them but you can't make a shortcut to launch drones, presumably because its meaning would be ambiguous on ships with multiple flights.
T0RT0ISE
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-02-25 18:30:05 UTC
right click, launch..... shortcut combo x5 just in case.

I don't think its a lot of effort considering the manual flying you should be doing in frig pvp anyway. a few mouseclicks for a throwaway 'module' isn't much to ask.
DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-02-26 08:29:14 UTC
T0RT0ISE wrote:
DeBingJos wrote:
T0RT0ISE wrote:
Please show me a PVP worthy 100dps frig where the drone does 20% of that damage.

EDIT: Or whatever other figures you pulled out of your arse.


I did pull the numbers out of my ass, but it appears they are quite correct when I EFT them with my skills.

1 Hobgoblin II in an incursus does 16 damage (and my drone skils and gallente frig skills are not very good.)
3 light ion blaster II without the drone do 87 damage (mind you I don't even have the skill to fit them, with spec the number will be higher)

Edit : 16 of 87 = 18.39%

So yes, I was right. Roll

Edit 2: Even if the drone does half the damage I claim it is worth using.


I like how you use an unbonused ship that you cant even fly with said skills in order to prove something when you already admit you are talking out of your arse.

Light ion blaster II with your skills THAT DONT EVEN LET YOU FIT THEM might be so but in reality that drone is doing about 10% of damage. It's not critical, but obviously you would be wise to fit one :P

I'm not deliberately being argumentative by the way, just a bit more realistic.


My point was that even a single drone does nice amount of dps in a 1 vs 1 frigfight. I even took the time to look up some numbers in EFT.

Also; don't forget that drones have other nice qualities over guns (no ammo or reloads, range, very good tracking, ...)

You need to work on your communication skils. I know these are the EVE-forums, but being rude gets you nowhere and people will put you in the troll-category. (Maybe you are and in that case I give you a 8/10 for successfully trolling me)




Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

GreenSeed
#25 - 2012-02-26 09:43:29 UTC
Rysis Vyvorant wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I will be a little more clear.

It is a 1v1 tournament and no drones are allowed. Since I fly only Gallente boats here is my scenario:

I have a Tristan vs Punisher/Merlin (Both these have no drone bays).

Is the tristan at an immediate disadvantage because of the lack of the drone or not? I believe so but...

Cheers.


get them to change the rules or dont participate. frigs with drones are balanced around drones. the only scenario i would see drones being banned would be on BIG fleet battles where drones add way too much lag, and targets get swapped all the time, so flight time makes them useless. besides fleet doctrine might make the drone control range impossible.

the real question ends being, do you drop ECM drones to force him to kill em off before focusing you, or do you drop T2lights and go for damage?

really, depends on your drone bay. on the tristan i would go for the ECM. and drop it once you have a favorable range and orbit along with your overload. if he targets it and kills it you gained around 10 secs of free tank, if he doesn't your worst case scenario is getting only one jam in, that will give you around 7 -8 secs. best case scenario you get 2 or 3 in and he will rage.

on anything with more room i would go for a mix since drone effects get hit HARD by diminishing returns. (3 ECM drones max at all times, their efects work like modules)
Daphny Naarma
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-02-27 11:45:10 UTC
I got my newbie behind served by an incursus the other day - a lot due to his drone (and granted, a few mistakes from my side as new to the scene). The Incursus kited me while the drone chipped away on my armor (I couldn't hit the drone) and even if the drone alone wasn't a threat, it helped my enemy drain my cap more than without one.

Next time I fight one, I'll refine my tactics though and hope for a more positive outcome!

In a frig vs frig fight? Ofc it's worth it. It's there just like any other offensive module.
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