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Imperial Guardians - Incursions and the Dec Shield
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Cprince castilla
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-02-26 21:12:47 UTC
confirmed
Marn's Sandwhichmaker
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-02-26 21:17:17 UTC
Currently at war with TASHA and confirmed!
Yuuto Zamir
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-02-26 21:18:20 UTC
Confirmed
Rehema Sagitta
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-02-26 21:20:52 UTC
Yup this is true
OfBalance
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-02-26 21:26:14 UTC
Sounds legit.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2012-02-26 22:40:18 UTC
I don't know you guys, and haven't a clue whether you're legit or this is another incursion-ganking wind-up.

All the same, since I usually fly logi when I visit incursion-land, I do wonder at the risk and the value of this. If I'm flying logi and one of your guys joins the fleet I'm likely to remove myself from the fleet. Decent logis don't usually have much trouble getting into fleets so there's no need for me to expose myself to that additional gank-risk, however small you reckon it might be.

I realise that can be a pain for decent legit incursion runners who happen to be subject to minor / irrelevant wardecs ... but why should I assume the risk so you can make the isk?

Perhaps if your corp / alliance stumps up with a logi replacement program you might find yourselves getting more logi acceptance ... might. If this is legit I wish you well, and if it's a gank-prep ... hey, good luck, you're putting in a lot of effort.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Aura Ikku
Imperial Guardians
Tactical Narcotics Team
#27 - 2012-02-26 22:55:35 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
I don't know you guys, and haven't a clue whether you're legit or this is another incursion-ganking wind-up.

All the same, since I usually fly logi when I visit incursion-land, I do wonder at the risk and the value of this. If I'm flying logi and one of your guys joins the fleet I'm likely to remove myself from the fleet. Decent logis don't usually have much trouble getting into fleets so there's no need for me to expose myself to that additional gank-risk, however small you reckon it might be.

I realise that can be a pain for decent legit incursion runners who happen to be subject to minor / irrelevant wardecs ... but why should I assume the risk so you can make the isk?

Perhaps if your corp / alliance stumps up with a logi replacement program you might find yourselves getting more logi acceptance ... might. If this is legit I wish you well, and if it's a gank-prep ... hey, good luck, you're putting in a lot of effort.


Well, firstly incursions were designed to get people to interact where they would not do so otherwise.

Its unfortunate, that by offering a place for the newest of players, Imperial Guardians have been forced to implement a dec shield to protect these new players. At the same time it restricts the older players, who are already spending much of their time helping the new players, from earning ISK.

So, you could sit back and say "F*ck you. Why should I?" or you could see it from another perspective, that you're indirectly helping the newer players. Yes, its a risk, but eve is full of risks.

Aura
drdxie
#28 - 2012-02-26 23:02:36 UTC
So ammzi/krissada, the most well known incursion griefer, say its OK to fly with you Shocked guess it must be safe then.Ugh

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
OfBalance
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-02-26 23:08:11 UTC
Water under the bridge guys, c'mon.

I suppose you wouldn't hire a convicted sex offender as a nanny either, eh?
Aura Ikku
Imperial Guardians
Tactical Narcotics Team
#30 - 2012-02-26 23:11:36 UTC
drdxie wrote:
So ammzi/krissada, the most well known incursion griefer, say its OK to fly with you Shocked guess it must be safe then.Ugh


Imperial Guardians do not grief!

What people do with out of corp alts is quite different and I think that most people are aware that many, many people have alts for different purposes. Their actions are not representative of our corp.

If this were a ploy to gank people do you honestly think I'd use such a large corp to do so?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#31 - 2012-02-26 23:15:27 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
I suppose you wouldn't hire a convicted sex offender as a nanny either, eh?


Depends. Are we talking a nanny or a "nanny"?
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#32 - 2012-02-26 23:23:45 UTC
Aura Ikku wrote:
drdxie wrote:
So ammzi/krissada, the most well known incursion griefer, say its OK to fly with you Shocked guess it must be safe then.Ugh


Imperial Guardians do not grief!

What people do with out of corp alts is quite different and I think that most people are aware that many, many people have alts for different purposes. Their actions are not representative of our corp.

If this were a ploy to gank people do you honestly think I'd use such a large corp to do so?


If you have Amzi/Krissada in your corp/alliance you are a griefer corp/allaince in my eyes... Trouble with wardecks is how to verify you don't have infiltrators like Krissada was. Thats why logi are rightfully scared to have wardecks & the pesky windows popping up all the time
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#33 - 2012-02-26 23:38:11 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:

If you have Amzi/Krissada in your corp/alliance you are a griefer corp/allaince in my eyes... Trouble with wardecks is how to verify you don't have infiltrators like Krissada was. Thats why logi are rightfully scared to have wardecks & the pesky windows popping up all the time


Darth, you don't think judging the corporation I am in now counting 750 + pilots due to my actions is a bit over the line?
So if I were suddenly to join EVE university they would automatically become griefers too? Where's your logic in this?

I think you need to relax and start thinking rationally here. If you're willing to take this to a personal level I will not hesitate to do the same.

drdxie
#34 - 2012-02-26 23:45:41 UTC
Aura Ikku wrote:
drdxie wrote:
So ammzi/krissada, the most well known incursion griefer, say its OK to fly with you Shocked guess it must be safe then.Ugh


Imperial Guardians do not grief!

What people do with out of corp alts is quite different and I think that most people are aware that many, many people have alts for different purposes. Their actions are not representative of our corp.

If this were a ploy to gank people do you honestly think I'd use such a large corp to do so?


Well the goons do
Cop out if ever I saw one, if you don't promote encourage griefing.. you should not have known griefers in your corp... I have 6 active characters.. none are pirates(ie don't gank to steal, PVPers in LS aren't all prates even though low sec status) or griefers.. and only 2 are carebears, yea I get is a sandbox and people go out to have fun.. but as far as I am concerned.. what you are in life reflects ingame.. and no one will convince me otherwise.

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
Aura Ikku
Imperial Guardians
Tactical Narcotics Team
#35 - 2012-02-27 00:22:57 UTC
drdxie wrote:
Aura Ikku wrote:
drdxie wrote:
So ammzi/krissada, the most well known incursion griefer, say its OK to fly with you Shocked guess it must be safe then.Ugh


Imperial Guardians do not grief!

What people do with out of corp alts is quite different and I think that most people are aware that many, many people have alts for different purposes. Their actions are not representative of our corp.

If this were a ploy to gank people do you honestly think I'd use such a large corp to do so?


Well the goons do
Cop out if ever I saw one, if you don't promote encourage griefing.. you should not have known griefers in your corp... I have 6 active characters.. none are pirates(ie don't gank to steal, PVPers in LS aren't all prates even though low sec status) or griefers.. and only 2 are carebears, yea I get is a sandbox and people go out to have fun.. but as far as I am concerned.. what you are in life reflects ingame.. and no one will convince me otherwise.


Ammzi, as a member of Imperial Guardians is under my command. unlike his alt Krissada who was not in corp during the incursion interdiction events.

Imperial Guardians do not grief, nor scam. What people do in other corps with their alts is up to them.
drdxie
#36 - 2012-02-27 01:02:03 UTC
Aura Ikku wrote:
drdxie wrote:
Aura Ikku wrote:
drdxie wrote:
So ammzi/krissada, the most well known incursion griefer, say its OK to fly with you Shocked guess it must be safe then.Ugh


Imperial Guardians do not grief!

What people do with out of corp alts is quite different and I think that most people are aware that many, many people have alts for different purposes. Their actions are not representative of our corp.

If this were a ploy to gank people do you honestly think I'd use such a large corp to do so?


Well the goons do
Cop out if ever I saw one, if you don't promote encourage griefing.. you should not have known griefers in your corp... I have 6 active characters.. none are pirates(ie don't gank to steal, PVPers in LS aren't all prates even though low sec status) or griefers.. and only 2 are carebears, yea I get is a sandbox and people go out to have fun.. but as far as I am concerned.. what you are in life reflects ingame.. and no one will convince me otherwise.


Ammzi, as a member of Imperial Guardians is under my command. unlike his alt Krissada who was not in corp during the incursion interdiction events.

Imperial Guardians do not grief, nor scam. What people do in other corps with their alts is up to them.


Sure.. that makes sense.. NOT!!!

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
drdxie
#37 - 2012-02-27 01:07:11 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:

If you have Amzi/Krissada in your corp/alliance you are a griefer corp/allaince in my eyes... Trouble with wardecks is how to verify you don't have infiltrators like Krissada was. Thats why logi are rightfully scared to have wardecks & the pesky windows popping up all the time


Darth, you don't think judging the corporation I am in now counting 750 + pilots due to my actions is a bit over the line?
So if I were suddenly to join EVE university they would automatically become griefers too? Where's your logic in this?

I think you need to relax and start thinking rationally here. If you're willing to take this to a personal level I will not hesitate to do the same.



I agree with Darth. A corp should be looking at the background of of pilots and all its known alts... So if eve uni took you or one of your alts.. They would be saying they are happy and agree with your actions... Its like saying you knew the player had 2 accounts, 1 corp thief an 1 perfectly trustworthy player, so as long as the alt stays out the corp you all good....

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#38 - 2012-02-27 01:29:56 UTC
I don't think there are need for any further explanations from either part.
People are free to judge whatever they want. Even if that means listening to NPC-characters talk about player corporations like they have any idea how they are run.
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-02-27 01:56:58 UTC
Isn't this EVE? You're basically not supposed to trust anyone, and also can't make people trust you just by telling them to do so. Either do away with the dec shield, or let the members that want to join incursion fleets temporarily leave your corp. You can't have your cake and eat it.
drdxie
#40 - 2012-02-27 01:57:08 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
I don't think there are need for any further explanations from either part.
People are free to judge whatever they want. Even if that means listening to NPC-characters talk about player corporations like they have any idea how they are run.


That the best you can come up with ?? Lol but yea.. This is my only toon Oops You and I have exchange mails and chatted and fought together in blazing.. and clearly it was not on this toon.

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277