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Open Letter To CCP
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Zaaark Quasar
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-02-26 10:55:49 UTC
Create a Ubuntu client of EVE Online with co-operation with Canonical. Pretty please.

That's all.

Yours,

Zaaark Quasar
Lexmana
#2 - 2012-02-26 10:58:06 UTC
Good luck with that one. I do support it but fix the Mac client first. You probably don't want and Ubuntu client before that anyway.
Serene Repose
#3 - 2012-02-26 11:02:27 UTC
Linux here. Linux there.
Does Ubuntu wear a red hat?
However you spell it
you get penguin.

Why doesn't CCP have a dedicated team to try to program
around the everlasting string of Linux builds?
They probably have work to do.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Badger Molester
crazy space hunter
#4 - 2012-02-26 11:04:53 UTC
Or you could stop being such a NERDY NERD MCNERD FACE.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-02-26 11:06:27 UTC
They abandoned the Linux client for a reason…
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#6 - 2012-02-26 11:08:14 UTC
CCP had a linux version, but dropped it since 1-2% of the player base actually used it...
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#7 - 2012-02-26 11:10:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
A tiny some people owe a Mac.

A little some people owe a PC and run Linux on it.

A huge many people owe computers actually suit for gaming.

Any more questions?
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#8 - 2012-02-26 11:15:19 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
A huge many people owe computers actually suit for gaming.


… and it turns out that a lot of people who only used their computer for playing simple games and browsing the web are switching to the iPad.

Does that mean CCP should port EVE Online to the iPad?

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Lexmana
#9 - 2012-02-26 11:20:21 UTC
Mai Khumm wrote:
CCP had a linux version, but dropped it since 1-2% of the player base actually used it...


in 2003 about 4-5% of computers surfing the web was Mac or Linux, now it is about 14% with a bullet. It might be a good strategy to plan for the future by making EVE run well on *NIX systems.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#10 - 2012-02-26 11:22:36 UTC
Zaaark Quasar wrote:
Create a Ubuntu client of EVE Online with co-operation with Canonical. Pretty please.

That's all.

Yours,

Zaaark Quasar


Dual boot your machine like the rest of us. Linux sucks for games, has always sucked for games, and will always suck for games.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-26 11:53:26 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
A huge many people owe computers actually suit for gaming.


… and it turns out that a lot of people who only used their computer for playing simple games and browsing the web are switching to the iPad.

Does that mean CCP should port EVE Online to the iPad?


Just because you can play some games on it doesn't mean it's a gaming computer, so no, not really.

Lexmana wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
CCP had a linux version, but dropped it since 1-2% of the player base actually used it...


in 2003 about 4-5% of computers surfing the web was Mac or Linux, now it is about 14% with a bullet. It might be a good strategy to plan for the future by making EVE run well on *NIX systems.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp


That's nice, but since EVE isn't a browser game, that statistic isn't really relevant. You can browse the web with some household appliances these days and almost every handheld, but it doesn't mean it's a good idea to treat it as an indicator where to focus your serious gaming development. The linux support wasn't dropped just because so few people were using it at the time, but because that number wasn't growing, while the mac gamer numbers were. You develop for the systems that can handle your game and the gamers actually use, not for some expensive toys that gamers don't actually use or which can't run the game at a satisfactory level.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-02-26 11:53:47 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:

Why doesn't CCP have a dedicated team to try to program
around the everlasting string of Linux builds?


Saying Linux has a lot of builds over Windows is like a Christian saying atheism has a lot of denominations.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#13 - 2012-02-26 12:00:34 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:


… and it turns out that a lot of people who only used their computer for playing simple games and browsing the web are switching to the iPad.


So you're saying that EVE is a simple game...?

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#14 - 2012-02-26 12:06:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ammzi
Serene Repose wrote:
Linux here. Linux there.
Does Ubuntu wear a red hat?
However you spell it
you get penguin.



Haiku poem? lol

PS: If anything CCP should drop supporting Mac.
Apple sucks!
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-02-26 12:07:20 UTC
EVE client generally works pretty fine with WINE (often to the point that mac users prefer stock Wine over Cider)
Jerera
#16 - 2012-02-26 12:07:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jerera
Zaaark Quasar wrote:
Create a Ubuntu client of EVE Online with co-operation with Canonical. Pretty please.

That's all.

Yours,

Zaaark Quasar


Or, you know, just HTFU and use Wine. I've been playing with wine for over 3 years now, without any major (read: that affect playability in a critical manner) issues.

Stability is great, even when multiboxing, and performance is correct.

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2249 If you look closely, some of the Dominion screenshots are mine Blink
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#17 - 2012-02-26 12:08:39 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:

Why doesn't CCP have a dedicated team to try to program
around the everlasting string of Linux builds?


Saying Linux has a lot of builds over Windows is like a Christian saying atheism has a lot of denominations.


Huh? What's your point?

Linux appeals to customers because it provides a hundred ways to answer every question, which is cool, but also makes bloody difficult to make a one-suits-all question. Specially with graphics involved. Linux is a UNIX variation and UNIX relationship with graphics always was, still is and will always be like "AAIIEEEE, THERE'S GRAPHICS ON MY COOODE!!!"

There is a reason why graphic interfaces where created on new languages and not UNIX, and that reason is called UNIX.
Lexmana
#18 - 2012-02-26 12:22:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
You develop for the systems that can handle your game and the gamers actually use, not for some expensive toys that gamers don't actually use or which can't run the game at a satisfactory level.

Nice catch 22. But I perfectly understand why gamers do stick with windows . It is even recommended by many in the EVE Mac forums. But market data is showing that windows is losing to *NIX. Apple sales are even skyrocketing despite being "expensive".

Maybe game companies need to consider the future and just not only the past.
Zaaark Quasar
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-02-26 12:28:41 UTC
Windows and Microsoft are crap.

And yes, I have used wine. I have been fighting with Wine tons of hours. Problem is that wine is crap, and always will be crap.

I even created this character two days ago in Crusible client using Wine, and few days later it doesn't even boot up, thanks to new update in Wine. Roll back? Yeah, well, not worth it.

Also, 12.04 will hit the jackpot. Why? Since it pwns Windows.
Zaaark Quasar
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-02-26 12:29:50 UTC
Oh, btw, Windows 8 will need continuos connetion to activation server in order to work. Have fun paying for your OS Lol
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