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A request from the deaf community. Please hear us out CCP!

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Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#41 - 2012-02-25 11:10:14 UTC
I only troll people who deserve it, and only if I can be arsed to do it. Mostly I'm just too apathetic to care about their antics, though.
JamDunc
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#42 - 2012-02-25 11:30:08 UTC
Can't see why this shouldn't be done.
PointSlap
Doomheim
#43 - 2012-02-25 12:12:02 UTC
I do agree with the OP but i would however point out that it is not there job to provide subtitles on videos for the Minority.

Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand. Do not get me wrong, i do agree with you, as it really doesnt take much effort but they have no legal obligation to do it.

But i wish u the best of luck
Frogzuk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-02-25 13:58:29 UTC
PointSlap wrote:
I do agree with the OP but i would however point out that it is not there job to provide subtitles on videos for the Minority.

Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand. Do not get me wrong, i do agree with you, as it really doesnt take much effort but they have no legal obligation to do it.

But i wish u the best of luck


Under UK law, all business' must make their services accessible by those with disabilities (Disability discrimination act applies), now there is a grey area when it comes to 'web content', however, I understand there are guidelines in place for web content and accessibility to those with disabilities i.e. In 1999 the Web Accessibility Initiative, a project by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), published the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines WCAG 1.0. In recent years, these have been widely accepted as the definitive guidelines on how to create accessible websites see linkie :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Accessibility_Initiative

If CCP are providing content within their web pages akin to videos then at the minimum they need to consider those guidelines. By doing so, it would enhance their reputation for supporting what is a minor request for a small minority of players in the environment ... the value added far outweighs any legal obligations tbfh !
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#45 - 2012-02-25 14:55:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
I can get behind this idea, whilst not deaf I do sometimes struggle to understand the amusingly accented english in some of the CCP videos.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Valei Khurelem
#46 - 2012-02-25 15:20:54 UTC

Quote:
Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand.


Those are the words of a feckless tool.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
killroy Atram
Universal Might
#47 - 2012-02-25 17:34:16 UTC
the OP should run for csm
CCP Loxy
C C P
C C P Alliance
#48 - 2012-02-25 18:07:24 UTC
I can only speak for the Eve trailers on youtube, but I'll make sure they'll have English subs along with our other supported languages from now on.

Video Producer & Director of EVE TV
Swinefluu
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-02-25 18:46:32 UTC
Also braille for the blind community
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#50 - 2012-02-25 19:03:23 UTC
CCP Loxy wrote:
I can only speak for the Eve trailers on youtube, but I'll make sure they'll have English subs along with our other supported languages from now on.

Does this include Klingon?

Nyan
Mara Villoso
Long Jump.
#51 - 2012-02-25 19:41:24 UTC
PointSlap wrote:
I do agree with the OP but i would however point out that it is not there job to provide subtitles on videos for the Minority.

Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand. Do not get me wrong, i do agree with you, as it really doesnt take much effort but they have no legal obligation to do it.

But i wish u the best of luck

By that logic its not their job to provide localized clients or any content in any language other than Mandarin Chinese (or Spanish). But you know those damn Americans and their ******* English. Damn minorities and their demands.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-02-25 20:21:48 UTC
Mara Villoso wrote:
PointSlap wrote:
I do agree with the OP but i would however point out that it is not there job to provide subtitles on videos for the Minority.

Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand. Do not get me wrong, i do agree with you, as it really doesnt take much effort but they have no legal obligation to do it.

But i wish u the best of luck

By that logic its not their job to provide localized clients or any content in any language other than Mandarin Chinese (or Spanish). But you know those damn Americans and their ******* English. Damn minorities and their demands.


I think the issue here is confusing the concepts of "obligation" and "just good business". No, CCP is NOT obligated to provide localization in your language, majority or otherwise.. but it would be a poor business decision not to. Same in this case.. they are not obligated to subtitle their vids, but it's a good idea to do so.

I'm glad they're going to subtitle the vids.. I know at least 2 Goons that are deaf, and they're p chill.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-02-25 20:26:07 UTC
Swinefluu wrote:
Also braille for the blind community


Don't be a ****.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-02-25 23:06:19 UTC
Lina Miaoke wrote:


We are deaf, we cant understand your trailers, videos, and vlog. Because there is no English subtitles for those videos.


HTFU

Twisted

Yeah yeah I'm going to hell.
Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#55 - 2012-02-26 01:43:10 UTC
I approve of this service for I, too, am hearing impaired.

I already struggle to hear my FC. How do you think I can hear your trailers with all that background noise?

How may I drug you with drugs?
Dersk
Perkone
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-02-26 01:50:37 UTC
In space no one can hear your youtube videos.
Kriz Lupin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-02-26 02:01:41 UTC
When I first started playing this game I had the pleasure of flying with a very competent deaf female pilot. Various people took the time to communicate voice comms as quickly as possible to private chat in pvp situations. There is no reason why ccp can't take the time to try to be supportive too and I am sure they will.
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#58 - 2012-02-26 05:17:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Hiram Alexander
CCP Loxy wrote:
I can only speak for the Eve trailers on youtube, but I'll make sure they'll have English subs along with our other supported languages from now on.

Nice move. Thank you.

Edit: - Oh, and a big thanks to kil2 for permission to use his videos.

I've sent a request to Agony Unleashed, also... but pending permission, here's their video on Tracking in PVP, and Spiralling-in... (Just uploaded/Stolen...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvfhVXbMgc8
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#59 - 2012-02-26 05:25:34 UTC
English subtitles will also be useful for those of us watching in noisy environments, or environments where being quiet is necessary.

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Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-02-26 07:29:16 UTC
While we're at it can we get English subtitles for mumbly Brits speaking "English" on comms?