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The Life of a pirate
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Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-02-23 19:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Death Toll007
The life of a pirate is bliss!!!

I would like to see a 0.0 mechanic/NPC station that would allow only pirates to dock and operate out of in SOV space. To clarify: Like a pirate's den for operations within SOV space for pirates only. The organizations using it cannot hold SOV anywhere, and must pay their rent with something pvp related.... like oh say CORPSES!!!!!

No intention of holding SOV, no intention of being productive, but allowing the primary disruptive function of Piracy to occur in 0.0. Currently only possible through wormhole basing. Fully expect all services to be diminished in capability and for skyrocketed prices, but meh it would be fun.

There are many who decry the choice to be a Pirate. The bears is high sec revile us. Sov groups look down on us, but for those few who have declared SOV a political game with little to gain, and high sec far too tame, we have carved out a niche in low sec and NPC null.

What can you expect out of the life of a pirate? Hours of fun and enjoyment, with a dynamic play style. Examples include but are not limited to:
1. Gate Camping
2. Roams
3. Hot Drops
4. Covert Hot Drops
5. Fleet battles
6. Small gang warfare
7. The ever elusive Solo PvP
8. People who play the game for fun, and enjoy each other's company (after all we do pay to play)
9. Mining (if you have the patience for it, i don't)
10. Plexing
11. Anoms
12. Wormholes (granted it is usually to raid them)
13. Cap Ship fun
14. Moments of sheer hilarity (Noob ships killing BS)

What you can expect from SOV:
1. Lots of timer-centric warfare
2. Potential to lose everything and start fresh
3. Potential to carve out an empire
4. Loads of politics
5. Same as life as a pirate.

Major difference for fun is mostly the lack of politics in piracy. We go where the killing is, and do not bother with CTA's, just form up for roams, and camps, and fun!

-DT
Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
#2 - 2012-02-23 20:45:28 UTC
Death Toll007 wrote:

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13. CP Ship fun

-DT


Let's try and keep this forum civil. This isn't 9gag.

How to make mining enjoyable: An Autocannon, Faction Ammo, Your Mouth
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-02-23 22:26:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
[Death Toll007]
> The life of a pirate is bliss!!!
> I would like to see ...

LOL. Yeah right, it's bliss but not quite so blissful I don’t want some fundamental changes to game dynamics for my widdle self.

[Death Toll007]
> ... allowing the primary disruptive function of Piracy to occur in 0.0.

Ummm, is there such a thing as piracy in nullsec? Everyone in nullsec is free to kill anyone else ... that's just how nullsec is.

You boys can head out to null and disrupt to your heart's content anytime you grow balls big enough. Of course in sov null you will meet ppl who would enjoy your presence and adding you to their KBs. In NPC null you'd also meet lots of others glad to have you visit.

[Death Toll007]
> Currently only possible through wormhole basing.

Not so! 1. Set destination - 2. warp to yellow gate - 3. Jump thru yellow gate - 4. Repeat 2 and 3 until you get to your destination. Easy isn't it? Just head out there to null and flaunt your disruptive uberness.

[Death Toll007]
> Fully expect all services to be diminished in capability and for skyrocketed prices, but meh it would be fun.

ROFL!! If you boys can't even find your way to nullsec I don't imagine you're gonna be disrupting many markets. Happy dreaming.

[Death Toll007]
> The bears is high sec revile us.

No, I think you'll find most bears laugh at you.

A bunch of tweeny boys (or wannabe tweeny boys) flying around in circles rawring and moaring and grunting approval at fukung dirty pictures and boobie jokes ... yeah, like that's gonna have anyone give you a second thought.

[Death Toll007]
> What can you expect out of the life of a pirate? Hours of fun and enjoyment, with a dynamic play style.

You forgot a few things from your list:
- Flying round and round in circles in a small group of systems;
- Rawring;
- Moaring;
- Yo ho ho ing;
- fukung link posting;
- boobie jokes and discussions;
- complaining to CCP that moar needs to be done to help piwates get moar kills.


[Death Toll007]
> We go where the killing is, and do not bother with CTA's, just form up for roams, and camps, and fun!

I hope y'all have a lot of fun with that. Anytime our paths cross you are welcome to kill me ... anytime ... if it'll help you feel all uber and piwatical.



!troll mode


Death Toll007 wrote:
The life of a pirate is bliss!!!

I would like to see a 0.0 mechanic/NPC station that would allow only pirates to dock and operate out of in SOV space. To clarify: Like a pirate's den for operations within SOV space for pirates only. The organizations using it cannot hold SOV anywhere, and must pay their rent with something pvp related.... like oh say CORPSES!!!!!

No intention of holding SOV, no intention of being productive, but allowing the primary disruptive function of Piracy to occur in 0.0. Currently only possible through wormhole basing. Fully expect all services to be diminished in capability and for skyrocketed prices, but meh it would be fun.

There are many who decry the choice to be a Pirate. The bears is high sec revile us. Sov groups look down on us, but for those few who have declared SOV a political game with little to gain, and high sec far too tame, we have carved out a niche in low sec and NPC null.

What can you expect out of the life of a pirate? Hours of fun and enjoyment, with a dynamic play style. Examples include but are not limited to:
1. Gate Camping
2. Roams
3. Hot Drops
4. Covert Hot Drops
5. Fleet battles
6. Small gang warfare
7. The ever elusive Solo PvP
8. People who play the game for fun, and enjoy each other's company (after all we do pay to play)
9. Mining (if you have the patience for it, i don't)
10. Plexing
11. Anoms
12. Wormholes (granted it is usually to raid them)
13. Cap Ship fun
14. Moments of sheer hilarity (Noob ships killing BS)

What you can expect from SOV:
1. Lots of timer-centric warfare
2. Potential to lose everything and start fresh
3. Potential to carve out an empire
4. Loads of politics
5. Same as life as a pirate.

Major difference for fun is mostly the lack of politics in piracy. We go where the killing is, and do not bother with CTA's, just form up for roams, and camps, and fun!

-DT

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Kid Chaos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-02-23 22:39:18 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:


You forgot a few things from your list:

- Yo ho ho ing;



You say that like it's a bad thing. Yo Ho, you scurvy troll!
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-02-23 23:14:06 UTC
Kid Chaos wrote:

You say that like it's a bad thing. Yo Ho, you scurvy troll!


Y'know, i very nearly forgot the yo ho ho ing bit. that'd have been very remiss of me indeed.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Havoc Zealot
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-02-24 03:49:22 UTC
Lol, Pirates vs our uber OP sov holding nullsexz alliance? yes please come and get reported in our intel channel. we will give you a fight.
Exitar Stormscion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-02-24 09:20:10 UTC
I support anything that will promote low sec , faction warfare and make piracy and anti piracy more fun.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#8 - 2012-02-24 10:33:35 UTC
Death Toll007 wrote:


I would like to see a 0.0 mechanic/NPC station that would allow only pirates to dock and operate out of in SOV space.



Shocked

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-24 13:38:06 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
...Nothing of significance. :-D


Although I forgot to mention the linking, jokes, and light hearted atmosphere more commonly found in pirate corps.

-DT
Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-02-24 15:37:32 UTC
You can already pirate in sov null, some guys in NPC corps have been doing it for the past year in Detorid (pretty good at it too). Apparently they hit targets of opportunity and cloak up when blobs roll thru. What you're asking for is to pirate and have a safe place to stay so you wont get WTFBBQPWNED. HTFU and join the guys sitting in safe spots.
Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-24 15:41:45 UTC
True... could just do it from a cloaky orca/carrier. Oooo... Cloaky orca/carrier + rorq for clone jumping...

Yo ho hoing time!

On the other hand, could make a clone vat bay for a POS and would accomplish the same.

-DT
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-02-24 16:23:36 UTC
This concept is called improving Factional Warfare and letting pirate factions join. There is a ton of potential here.

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Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-02-24 16:36:33 UTC
Also true,

Imagine if there were more pirate NPC stations throughout null, but only pirates of that faction could dock there. Other groups could still hold sov, but always have that pesky pirate station...

-DT
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-02-24 21:23:14 UTC
"mommy mommy mommy, save me from the big meanies!"

is what i got from the OP.

if you're too bad/dumb/poor to not get your **** pushed in by sov entities, NPC 0.0 is not for you.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#15 - 2012-02-24 22:42:59 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
"mommy mommy mommy, save me from the big meanies!"

is what i got from the OP.

if you're too bad/dumb/poor to not get your **** pushed in by sov entities, NPC 0.0 is not for you.


YOUR ALLIANCE TICKER. WTF IS THIS. Shocked

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-02-24 23:09:28 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Mfume Apocal wrote:
"mommy mommy mommy, save me from the big meanies!"

is what i got from the OP.

if you're too bad/dumb/poor to not get your **** pushed in by sov entities, NPC 0.0 is not for you.


YOUR ALLIANCE TICKER. WTF IS THIS. Shocked


The game has changed.
Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-02-25 17:32:32 UTC

(Has popcorn ready to watch the next Troll post)

-DT
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-02-25 22:53:04 UTC
The truth is that the 'life of a pirate' isn't much different than any other PvP'er. Piracy is not so much a 'career' in Eve as it is a hobby. There is no real mechanic to profit from piracy beyond loot.

Much is made of the infamous ransom- but those are quite rare. Its just not easy to get someone close to death without popping them (especially in a fleet), even fewer are willing to ransom- being in low or null they tend to be prepared for combat and minimized their loss-risk with jump clones, etc.

Piracy often boils down to random acts of violence. We often do no more than exchange loss mails for kill mails. Virtually any PvP corp- pirate or not- insists you can afford to PvP on your own before even joining. Maybe they offer ship replacement, but often PvP corps of any flavor are really just gentlemen's clubs for like-minded players to gather.

I will agree with the OP in this regard tho- I hated being in a null sec alliance, BC blobs, CTA's, etc- that has come to define the null sec experience.
Truth be told I get less fleet time and less fights as a low sec pirate- but I do enjoy the game so much more now. A blob of frigates is at least fun, and null (in my time there) seemed much more about a few high SP alts mining goo while a heap of newbs spent their game time defending that alt's cash cow just to get fleets for themselves.

In reality, all PvP is essentially piracy. You're a pirate to your target regardless of whatever 'cause' you claim to fight for. A corp or alliance pilot is just another pirate to enemy corps/alliances. Even FW is more like 'privateering' than joining a standing military.
Evidence for this is that gate guns will fire on you just like any other pirate scumbag if you engage in low sec. Many pilots think they are better than declared pirates- the reality is you're one too.
The fact that the VAST majority of Eve is NBSI out there is actually more brutal than piracy, as at least a ransom offers to let you live while NBSI is just 'murder everything'.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#19 - 2012-02-25 23:57:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
This already exists, in a manner of speaking, OP:

CovertOps cloak + Covert cyno capable ships + a "pig (BLOPs BS)," and a bunch of stealth bombers and recons (and probably a cloaky hauler to haul the isotopes needed for bridging in any substantive manner--there's a reason BLOPs are called "pigs."Roll)

It always makes me roar with laughter that 1 cloaked ship in a system can shut down ultraubersuperduper1337 alliance's PvE/carebearing activities to the point that they have nothing else to do but come to the forums and scream for nerfs to cloaking.

Psychological warfare, us cloakies have it!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-02-26 00:20:58 UTC
nobody who actually rats in null is elite
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