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[PROPOSAL] bringing voice comms and chat windows into E-War in EVE
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Jay Pava
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-02-23 10:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jay Pava
The ability to tap into and disrupt secure lines of communication is a key element of warfare and intelligence gathering, but this seems to have been overlooked in EVE. With a few thought-through innovations, this method of E-War could be a viable asset for fleets and intel gatherers in the EVE universe.

Brainstorm 1: ships and modules:
- For Sov holders, a 'communications disruption' platform could be introduced, serving alongside the Cynosural System Jammer. This platform would function by 'garbling' the fleet comms of players marked as red to the alliance.
- For intel gatherers, a new covops ship or ship module could be introduced that lets the pilot see the fleet comms of any fleet within a certain AU.

Brainstorm 2: voice comms:
- An update to the existing voice comms available in EVE is needed.
- Anomalies in WH systems could make voice comms in EVE 'noisy'.
- Similarly, the aforementioned 'communications disruption' platform could make voice comms 'noisier' the closer a fleet marked as red to the alliance gets to the structure.

Brainstorm 3: garbling, noise??
- by 'garbling' fleet chat, I mean randomly altering a % of the content as it is posted. Correct me if I'm wrong but all chat is stored locally on a client's computer in .txt files. For those of you with the know-how, do you think this is a possibility?
- by making voice comms 'noisy' I mean imposing a new level of 'electronic interference' or 'static' above the active voice channel according to the level the player has set their mike at in-game. Again, for those of you with more wisdom than me, would this have a dire impact on performance?

Brainstorm 4: channels:
- Leave secure, invite-only alliance and intel channels alone. They remain as-is.

Very rough ideas, but hopefully interesting to think how 'clean' communications channels currently are. Fly safe 07
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#2 - 2012-02-23 10:50:50 UTC
Your ideas are cool. They won't work.

No one uses eve-voice because its already vulnerable to being lagged out if the client lags, since its tied to client server communications. If you were to start garbling text, everyone would just start using their jabber servers for intel channels as well as alerts. It is already used for alot of sensitive communications in most major alliances since it is more secure than in game channels(need an API to access it, can't claim to be an alt).

We already have systems to beat that in place, and it would give a sizable disadvantage to those entities who don't have these resources at the disposal.

Btw, say hi to B'nai for me [:twisted:]

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Jay Pava
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-02-23 10:59:22 UTC
Thanks for the education. It's a shame that so many features in EVE have been written off, it detracts from the game IMO. I'll pass on your greetings to Bna'i, if you were once a victim of one of his ganks then my condolences :p o7
Della Monk
Monastery of Drakes
#4 - 2012-02-23 10:59:28 UTC
The many, many people who use external voice comms will be unaffected.
'x' and 'wwwwwww' still get the point across when scrambled.

I like the idea, it just doesn't work when out of game bypasses exist are in widespread use already
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#5 - 2012-02-23 11:43:02 UTC
Jay Pava wrote:
Thanks for the education. It's a shame that so many features in EVE have been written off, it detracts from the game IMO. I'll pass on your greetings to Bna'i, if you were once a victim of one of his ganks then my condolences :p o7


Hehe, I know him from when GIMA was a 'secret alliance' instead of actually a real one. Ganked a corpies orca, wardecced us, and discovered TECMO was a pvp corp when we chased him from Ylandoki to Itamo. Silly boy let me troll him into siccing 7 corps on us the same day our app to Spacemonkeys was approved.

He kinda was wondering what we were doing before that that was more important than fighting him, when all our stuff was packed into carriers to move out to nullsec.

Sure hope the past year and half have mellowed him a bit, he had potential if he could just keep his mouth from running off.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-23 20:27:52 UTC
I think this would be awesome but...Ventrillo, TeamSpeak, Jabber and everything else make it pointless.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#7 - 2012-02-23 21:32:57 UTC
Jay Pava wrote:
It's a shame that so many features in EVE have been written off, it detracts from the game IMO.


The problem with Eve voice comms is that they're inflexible. On Teamspeak we can move in and out of subchannels as needed without messing with our eve chats.

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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#8 - 2012-02-23 21:54:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Azorria
As well as being obsolete due to reasons outlined above, It doesn't work from a lore point of view either ie. EVE comms don't use radio waves or anything like that, they use entangled particles (possible exception being local), which you can't jam.

Intresting idea though.

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-02-24 20:50:20 UTC
Great Idea.


Complete waste of time.

All I'd need is Ventrillo/TS3/Mumble and your idea is rendered comlpetely useless.

Not supporting.

A+ for effort tho! :)

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