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You can't beat the goons, but you can slow them down
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Vince Snetterton
#1 - 2012-02-24 18:21:36 UTC
Look folks, if the goontards want to destroy your ice mining ship, they will.
They have the resources, pilot base, and will to do it.

But...you don't have to make it easy for them.

Up the ante by flying miners that have more tank.
Force them to bring more, and I mean a lot more, chars to the ganking, or more expensive gank ships.
Naturally, this will dramatically reduce your hold sizes and nerf your ISK/hour.

You will have to weigh the survivability vs the reduced ISK/hour to decide what is better for you.
And eventually, the goons will show up with enough firepower to blow you up.
But they will likely take out the easy pickings first before messing with the heavier tanked ships.

Anyway, below is a fit that I am testing out.
Will run for 3 cycles before hold is filled.
It also requires a 1% implant in slot 6, which should run you about 1 million.
The Domination kin amp is "relatively" cheap, especially when compared to the cost of the Hulk.

The solo tank on the ship as fitted with my skills is slightly better than 33K against blasters, (catalyst / thorax is atm the ship of choice of these jerks. That will likely change if enough people tank their ships, but that increases the gankers' costs)
If you by some miracle can get a well-piloted Vulture to boost you, tank bumps up to 41K.
33,000 buffer will take some doing to chew through before Concord shows up.


[Hulk, Tanked 3 Cycle]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II

Ice Harvester II
Ice Harvester II
Ice Harvester II

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#2 - 2012-02-24 18:39:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tah'ris Khlador
Thank you for posting your fitting ideas for your mining vessels in C&P. I'm sure many here appreciate your endeavor and will take it into great consideration upon their return to the belts.

I would also recommend taking your mining operations to a system such as Old Man Star, where you will find many helpful individuals ready to interdict anyone coming to harm your mining vessel. Between your tanking ideas, and the supportive local of Old Man Star, your mining operations shall prevail!

EDIT: I see you are using your hulk to mine Ice. Old Man Star may not be as effective but you will find great raw minerals to your liking.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
Jack Traynor
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-02-24 18:49:04 UTC
Oooh, lookee, it's the weekly Goonie alt thread!! Awesomesauce!
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#4 - 2012-02-24 18:51:56 UTC
You don't have to be faster than the bear, just faster than the guy next to you.

You don't need a perfect security system, just a better set up than your neighbor.

You don't need an indestructible mining ship, just one more expensive to gank than the miner next to you.

Seeing a pattern yet?

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-02-24 18:53:21 UTC
Jack Traynor wrote:
Oooh, lookee, it's the weekly Goonie alt thread!! Awesomesauce!


Yes, because the members of the CFC seriously have nothing to do but come to C&P (a pointless forum) and **** it up about an ice interdiction, that is being performed by 1 corp. Obviously there is a recent lack of Goon hatred, so we need to stir the pot up a bit Roll
Vince Snetterton
#6 - 2012-02-24 20:15:55 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Thank you for posting your fitting ideas for your mining vessels in C&P. I'm sure many here appreciate your endeavor and will take it into great consideration upon their return to the belts.

I would also recommend taking your mining operations to a system such as Old Man Star, where you will find many helpful individuals ready to interdict anyone coming to harm your mining vessel. Between your tanking ideas, and the supportive local of Old Man Star, your mining operations shall prevail!

EDIT: I see you are using your hulk to mine Ice. Old Man Star may not be as effective but you will find great raw minerals to your liking.


Yes, because suiciding an Exhumer in low sec is exactly like protecting oneself from high sec gankers.....er...um..not.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-02-25 00:06:56 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Force them to bring more, and I mean a lot more, chars to the ganking,


Confirming that because we are such a small alliance this would be difficult for us. Excellent tactic.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Genie Talia
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-02-25 01:01:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Genie Talia
No need to slow or kill them

They are killing their own people for free, even better then a mack kill:

http://kb.batcountry-eve.org/index.php/kill_detail/30358/
BrokenBC
no tax's are us
#9 - 2012-02-26 15:46:28 UTC
Genie Talia wrote:
No need to slow or kill them

They are killing their own people for free, even better then a mack kill:

http://kb.batcountry-eve.org/index.php/kill_detail/30358/



Shoot blues erry day!
Ash Stewart
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#10 - 2012-02-26 17:11:17 UTC
can't you miners check local and the overview a bit more?

Can't you align, ready to warp out?

Come on..... if you're smart about this, you can spot the buildup and escape.

AND.. can't you just set standings to known gankers to red? --- give you more warning.

Just a thought..

.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger...............
Lord Wiggin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-02-26 18:02:37 UTC
Ash Stewart wrote:
can't you miners check local and the overview a bit more?

Can't you align, ready to warp out?

Come on..... if you're smart about this, you can spot the buildup and escape.

AND.. can't you just set standings to known gankers to red? --- give you more warning.

Just a thought..


It's a lot funnier when you put a tanked hulk out and they fail on it repeatedly...
Like most large alliances they have a few capable people, and a lot of trash. Watching the trash try and emulate their leaders is some of the best comedy in the game. Shocked