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hi CCP why are you tearing down the sandbox re: scams

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GM Spiral
Game Master Retirement Home
#41 - 2012-02-24 13:25:13 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
Nope, still doesn't make sence.

You cannot post anything but legitimate post in channel, i.e. no scams, but at the same time you can be scammed.

It's got to be one or the other. Want a GM responce to this.


You are always responsible for the outcome of any deal you enter into yourself in EVE Online, Customer Support can not protect you from your own choices.

Posting scams in the Recruitment Channel is forbidden in the same way that posting off topic there is forbidden. It is a measure of moderation of the channel, being a member of the channel does not carry with it any implied protection from such scams any more than being a member of the Help channel does.

Senior Game Master | CCP Games Customer Support Team

Helping capsuleers since 2004.
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#42 - 2012-02-24 13:32:27 UTC
GM Spiral wrote:
Desert Ice78 wrote:
Nope, still doesn't make sence.

You cannot post anything but legitimate post in channel, i.e. no scams, but at the same time you can be scammed.

It's got to be one or the other. Want a GM responce to this.


You are always responsible for the outcome of any deal you enter into yourself in EVE Online, Customer Support can not protect you from your own choices.

Posting scams in the Recruitment Channel is forbidden in the same way that posting off topic there is forbidden. It is a measure of moderation of the channel, being a member of the channel does not carry with it any implied protection from such scams any more than being a member of the Help channel does.


So the practical outcome will be that if you do get scamed, then tough luck and you don't get your stuff back, but at least the scammers themselves will be punished. Do I have that right?

I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg

CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
Killiana Lett
Birds Aren't People
#43 - 2012-02-24 13:39:38 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
GM Spiral wrote:
Desert Ice78 wrote:
Nope, still doesn't make sence.

You cannot post anything but legitimate post in channel, i.e. no scams, but at the same time you can be scammed.

It's got to be one or the other. Want a GM responce to this.


You are always responsible for the outcome of any deal you enter into yourself in EVE Online, Customer Support can not protect you from your own choices.

Posting scams in the Recruitment Channel is forbidden in the same way that posting off topic there is forbidden. It is a measure of moderation of the channel, being a member of the channel does not carry with it any implied protection from such scams any more than being a member of the Help channel does.


So the practical outcome will be that if you do get scamed, then tough luck and you don't get your stuff back, but at least the scammers themselves will be punished. Do I have that right?


No, no you do not.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#44 - 2012-02-24 16:40:31 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Off topic posts and inappropriate language removed.

I would also like to remind you on rules 9, 10 and 13 of our forum rules.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#45 - 2012-02-24 16:49:33 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Off topic posts and inappropriate language removed. Please stay civil, polite and on topic.

I would also like to remind you on rules 9, 10 and 13 of our forum rules.


CCP Phantom, you deleted GM Sprials post which was ment to be a final clarification of the issue at hand. Is he going to repost it?

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CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
GM Spiral
Game Master Retirement Home
#46 - 2012-02-24 17:16:36 UTC
Desert Ice78 wrote:
Except it's not clear.

People using the channel need to know if they can be scammed or not. A GM telling them that recruitment scams are not allowed, but then when they do get scammed it's tough luck, is only mudding the waters.

If something happens that is not allowed, people want to be reimbursed and compensated.

Still waiting for a full and final clarification from a GM.


If you enter into any deal in EVE Online and get scammed, without the aid of a bug or an exploit, then you are not eligible for reimbursement of any of the loss you may have suffered. This is regardless of what chat channel you may or may not be a member of at the time. You enter into deals with other players in EVE Online at your own risk and responsibility.

Players posting scams on the channel may expect warnings or even bans, if verified. As with many other channels in EVE, the recruitment channel is not moderated and relies on players reporting inappropriate language and behaviour to us through the petition system. If it was not clear enough, posting scams in the recruitment channel is considered on the same level as posting obscene links or language and will be treated accordingly.

Scamming, recruitment or not, is not forbidden in EVE. We encourage all pilots to exercise caution and common sense when dealing with other pilots in the game world. Your most valuable commodity in EVE is always going to be your trust, please don't sell it cheap.

Senior Game Master | CCP Games Customer Support Team

Helping capsuleers since 2004.
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