Crime & Punishment

For once im inclined to agree with a rant, war dec avoidance and war dec removal alliances are really really stupid.

I totally agree with the op.
Good rant.

Is it wrong that I get wood when you rant??

Learn to read. Where does the op demand that ccp put in rules ?

The op is mearly suggesting that war decs mechanics which that have been in place for years suddenly get raped with this move firmly ending high sec wars on any corp industrial, pvp or other.

Lest we forget that high sec wars have contributed greatly to tears in c+p.
Remember the lonetrek salvage and scrap v the orphanage epic threads ?

Op is correct in what he/she states.

Let's take a more carebear-ish perspective on it, maybe CCP will hear that better.

Wardecs aren't free. You might argue that they're cheap, but at the alliance level they can be costly. CCP has given corporations the ability to not only shed a wardec, but arbitrarily rob the aggressor of their hard-earned isk. it's not refunded, it's not prorated, their money is simply gone and they have no control over that. For a mercenary alliance, this can amount to billions of lost isk and the absolute destruction of their business model.

CCP has spent the past year propping up those who can't be bothered to learn game mechanics in order to protect themselves, then they let them cost others billions while completely avoiding wars, and now they have apparently removed C1 wormhole access from high sec. It's like they're watching how I play the game and removing anything I might actually consider fun.

You know there's an ice interdiction on. All the ice miners have fled caldari space and are concentrated in other areas...mostly gallente space from what I've seen. You've got fish in a barrel, go shoot some.

War dec shields are very an example of how War-decs are broken. However, you should just "fix" dec-shields without fixing the other war-dec problems!

The two major poblems with Wardecs: [list]

Dec Shields Allow any corp to easily shed a wardec, thereby making high-sec POS's invulnerable.

Wartime Corp Hopping allows aggressing Players to enter a corp moments before they gank a wartarget, and it allows war-decced players to run away instantly.

IMO, war-dec shields need to be eliminated. It's alright to transfer wardecs to an alliance when a corp joins it, but it's not alright for a corp to be rid of the alliance's wardecs when it leaves the alliance.

I think wartime corp hopping should be eliminated too. To do this, when in non-mutually-declared wars, the aggressing corp should NOT have the ability to accept new players into the corp until all wardecs become mutual, or the wardec is withdrawn.

I think trying to leave a corp during wartime should require a 3ish-day AWOL period prior to official desertion. In other words, it takes 3ish days to leave a corp during wartime. This can be enforced by extending the "removing corp roles" cooldown timer to 3ish days during wartimes, and by granted everyone the "drafted" role when the wardec goes active.

There should be a boon to the defending corp that makes a wardec mutual. Nothing like giving them an obtuse advantage over their opponents, but something to encourage them to make the wardec mutual. Perhaps they are given a CONCORD Intel report on the wartargets that provides a list of members, their current locations, and standings towards NPC factions. Perhaps a war-decced corp cannot join an alliance until they make the wardec mutual.

Gankers tears are the sweetest.

You do know that the dec shield alliance you speak of was created to highlight the fact that CCP broke hisec wars

everyone knew that it needed a change, but we were all expecting a new system to take its place when they removed it, not a simple relaxation of the rules to 'anything goes - we dont have the manpower to police you guys'

Just wait till after the next down time and re-Dec the corp, it isn't like it's expensive (if you can't afford that, you probably can't afford a war in the first place).

Rinse and Repeat, you dispute their activities for 24 hour chunks at a time.

(not to mention they will start dreading seeing that notification every other day)