Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Can you please make all weapons hit first thing that is on its path?
It will make EVE so much more interesting.
And, its logical. How can bullet pass one ship and hit other? And it cant be that smart to go around the first ship.
In real world only missiles can do some flight correction while in flight, and that's only for stationary things and only if it have long time for reaction (cruise missiles will go around stationary buildings and follow surface of earth). And that's because you have room to put smart computer with sensors in it. You cant put computer and sensors in bullet.

Please, consider this, it will make EVE feel like new game.
Imagine:
Titan as shield - you deploy your own playground
Miner in belt - suicide ganker cant just shot you if you are on other side of the rock - next time prepare your gank
Station games - he shoot on you but - part of station is on path - be a little more aware next time you shoot someone at the station.

I just saw that i posted in wrong forums.
sorry.

The US Army would like to respectfully disagree with you.

Also in addition to what "Destination SkillQueue" said, this would make fleet to fleet fights with any slow ships unfeasible. How would battle ships fight? Everyone warps to a different point? Not to mention hotdrops, cloaked ships, and capital blobs.

How exactly would you handle misses? Do the projectile/laser keep traveling till they hits something? Drone misses? For that matter what about drones/missiles/bombs getting in the way?

Seems like a very half baked idea to me.

Never going to happen, the amount of raw processing power needed to run a single 100 man fleet fight with collision detection on every shot hasn't been invented yet.

In short, a 1000 man fleetfight would cause the eve cluster to burst into flames and mimic the surface of the sun.

Essentially the same way I have been envisioning this idea for years.

The truth of the matter is that combat in eve is far too static and far too boring in it's current state. It may have been exciting back in 03 however it's now 9 years later and we are still unable to use objects in space as cover. This overly simplified "combat" that is currently present in eve is the reason blobs are so common place. With the introduction of LOS blob tactics and formations will be far more required to avoid friendly fire or not shooting based on how you have your LOS preferences set.

For this to work every single hit box of every single colliedable object and ship in space is going to need to be updated. Something that will most certainly take a very long time to implement. Furthermore weapons will most certainly need a massive balance rework if LOS were to go live.

Just reminds me of the Mass Effect 2, the sergent talking to 2 privates in front of C-Sec. "Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a b!tch in space!" Classic.

Yeah, used to be in game. I just think that there's too many damned problems with it.

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Except engine trails are now a player client-side operation and not server based at all. It would take a lot of restructuring on the server-side client to accommodate what you're suggesting here.

This would surely encourage small fleet/gang fights over huge blobs...
And it would make EVE feel younger and less boring.
Think a little about new strategies this would bring - and not only, the most boring one, bring more ships. (and that's not even an strategy)

I give 100% support to this!

you are teh man !!!

it's funny how people just post answers why it wouldn't work = brainfarts

while you SIR are a genius who can use his brain for the advantage of gamplay.

I bow before you!
Things like that is what THIS game is about and NOT some walking in station bullshith!!

How would it ruin fleet warfare? If anything a decent LOS mechanic would spice up fleet fights...

Formations would be required to avoid nulling dmg on target through friendlies intersecting your LOS. Tactics such as ducking behind capitals or asteroids to avoid fire would become highly recommended. Essentially LOS would put a larger focus on a pilots situational awareness and higher rewards for those able to take full advantage of the environment around them.

I have personally always wanted this to be a feature in EVE, however for it to be implemented in a meaningful way

1. The entire navigation mechanic would need to be overhauled for more control over position and formation in fleets (especially in small and medium ships), and to optimize evasive maneuvers. Otherwise this feature would only annoy players
2. Combat mechanics would need to be reviewed. For example, since guns auto-track and auto-fire, avoiding unintended targets would be difficult. I would suggest a manual tracking and firing system for many (but not necessarily all) ships
3. Aforementioned server load increase would be a problem, this would need to be mitigated effectively
4. A range cap would need to be determined and implemented to limit accidental kills and server lag
5. A system would need to be put in place to prevent abuse of the aggression/CONCORD mechanic in highsec
6. The LoS mechanic itself would need to be improved and made feasible for application to current play. The old mechanic could not simply be recycled without intensive review and updates. Things like friendly fire and damage nullification for neutral targets would need to be addressed and implemented properly
7. EVE would become even harder to play, though more interesting, and many may not welcome the change
8. Playing multiple accounts at once could become impractical in many applications, therefore changing the playing styles of some PvP players
9. Changes to the mechanics would need to be implemented in stages, with maximal player feedback for optimization


Despite the things needed to make it work, I believe that if done properly, the LoS mechanic, along with manual maneuvering and gunnery, would definitely make the game more interesting for nearly all pilots. There are several benefits for such features


1. Blob fleets would become impractical, thus necessitating innovative and interesting tactical maneuvers
2. Pilots would be required to be more attentive to their position and firing, making engagements very intensive
3. The classic dogfight in an asteroid belt would become a reality
4. Real skills would greatly surpass in game skill and equipment as factors influencing victory
5. Ship roles would become more apparent, and more easily definable
6. New life would be brought to a somewhat stale PvP experience
7. Players would be encouraged to think creatively in fleet composition and formation, thus bringing unseen depth to the world of EVE
8. New players might be hooked into the game not just by engaging complexity, intriguing economics, massive scale, and fun content, but also by the ingenius mechanics of LoS, ship positioning, evasive maneuvering, and dogfightin

Overall, I think these features would enhance gameplay immensely, and improve on the general experience of EVE Online. However, I can see this project taking multiple years to implement in full extent, and some repercussions with players opposed to such features for previously mentioned reasons. The overwhelming factor, however, would be player input. CCP would need immense amounts of feedback before implementing any of the things mentioned.