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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#41 - 2012-02-24 11:31:32 UTC
CCP Diagoras wrote:
Salpun wrote:
CCP Diagoras wrote:
I have now enabled the list for the final ballot candidates on the CSM section of the EVE website.

Could you post the final list here with final "like" count at the end of the nomination proccess.

Also is the order of candidates random on that page? If not it needs to be to keep things fair.


The order is indeed randomised. We don't have plans on releasing "like" numbers as it's not really related to the final part of the voting process; there are some player created tools that have done this though (like this).

Its out dated though lol

Randimized every visit or just randemized at creation?

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
CCP Diagoras
C C P
C C P Alliance
#42 - 2012-02-24 11:39:46 UTC
It's randomised every visit - go to it and hit F5 Bear

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#43 - 2012-02-24 11:43:09 UTC
CCP Diagoras wrote:
It's randomised every visit - go to it and hit F5 Bear

confirmedP

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-02-24 16:04:14 UTC
Mr LaForge wrote:
Seleene
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
The Mittani
Trebor Daehdoow
Two step

Those are people I'd vote for.


I would add Prometheus Exenthal and Messia Anunthiel in there.

Sounds about right.
Van Theotus
Pidgeon Post And Package Delivery
#45 - 2012-02-24 16:24:29 UTC
i want to point out that Blackberry Bold is no longer in Acquisition of Empire
Blake Zacary
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-02-25 00:34:17 UTC
Skye Aurorae wrote:
Spugg Galdon wrote:
Is it just me or are the "Yanks" taking over the World?


I'm not a yank, I wasn't born in the US.
I'm guessing with your daughters name you're Scottish then ?
Atlas Oracle
Colossus Enterprises
#47 - 2012-02-25 03:31:42 UTC
Really disappointed to see Mittens get in there again. more of the same lame crap, hardly worth paying for this game.

If you can't just abolish this meta-gaming joke, at lease make term limits.
Replacement 234
Tremor Recorded
#48 - 2012-02-26 12:05:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Replacement 234
CCP - please kill this folly and hire a first rate marketing firm.

What corporation in the top ten thousand corps in the world has a customer advisory council elected by the customers? Customer advisory board, yes, but never elected by the customers.

All at large candidates? You end up with one view point or all individual viewpoints - nothing representational of the voter base!

Please modernize your business practices - this is more like a neighborhood association and just as petty.

Please don't take my abstention as voter apathy, but a lack of variety among the candidates.

I want a game I can play, not a system in which I must be a political organizer to get a decent game put together - That is not how a great many of your customers want to spend their game time.

Please, hire a first rate marketing firm, have them produce quality customer surveys and let the customers fill them out periodically. Use your knowledge of your demographics to appeal to new customers and quality assurance questionaires to keep in touch with your existing customers. You could select a slate of candates at random and get input as valid as you will from any group of people who are there representing their own interests as any CSM panel will do.

Just remember, the only people they represent are the ones who voted, so if you get a ten percent turnout, the "winners" will be representing just over half of that number and even if it is a landslide with the winners taking every vote cast, they will still be representing only ten percent of your customers. Take every non-vote as a "none of the above" vote.

It ain't apathy, it's disgust.

OH - and fix this damn forum that fails just about every first try to post something. Anyone who want to post anything has to copy it and try to get it to "take" the second or even more attempts - or failing that, just do a rage walk away, have one more irritant to deal with, and no one gets their viewpoint.
Aiifa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-02-28 13:45:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Aiifa
Replacement 234 wrote:
CCP - please kill this folly and hire a first rate marketing firm.

What corporation in the top ten thousand corps in the world has a customer advisory council elected by the customers? Customer advisory board, yes, but never elected by the customers.

All at large candidates? You end up with one view point or all individual viewpoints - nothing representational of the voter base!

Please modernize your business practices - this is more like a neighborhood association and just as petty.

Please don't take my abstention as voter apathy, but a lack of variety among the candidates.

I want a game I can play, not a system in which I must be a political organizer to get a decent game put together - That is not how a great many of your customers want to spend their game time.

Please, hire a first rate marketing firm, have them produce quality customer surveys and let the customers fill them out periodically. Use your knowledge of your demographics to appeal to new customers and quality assurance questionaires to keep in touch with your existing customers. You could select a slate of candates at random and get input as valid as you will from any group of people who are there representing their own interests as any CSM panel will do.

Just remember, the only people they represent are the ones who voted, so if you get a ten percent turnout, the "winners" will be representing just over half of that number and even if it is a landslide with the winners taking every vote cast, they will still be representing only ten percent of your customers. Take every non-vote as a "none of the above" vote.

It ain't apathy, it's disgust.

OH - and fix this damn forum that fails just about every first try to post something. Anyone who want to post anything has to copy it and try to get it to "take" the second or even more attempts - or failing that, just do a rage walk away, have one more irritant to deal with, and no one gets their viewpoint.


Didn't have the energy for a long post before.

Marketing: tough to make it work in a game angled perhaps inadvertently toward compsci types; the eve demographics are too poor or too clever for conventional marketing.

What corporation in the top ten thousand corps in the world makes EVE? Eve is unique. Poor argument.

The claim that CSM reps can't represent us is a negative one. The fact that Two Step has every concern I have and then some and better than that can articulate it makes him a superior choice to any career marketer.

Argument from modernity, nice twist. Just as meaningless.

Who are you to think the apathetic would be any more mobilised to express themselves to faceless marketing machines?

Fallacy, argument from extremes.

Yet again if the apathetic now don't vote or post why the hell would they fill out a survey? EVE already has surveys every two months, those mostly go ignored. You've certainly ignored them.

So now your beef is with the electoral system? Wrong thread. I would also like an electoral system that let me cast negative votes.

I'm pretty disgusted with your post. It is high-handed and irrational. Same goes for the embittered failtrolls (hur de hur no pun intended) who've supported what you said.

This really isn't the game for you or your ilk.
Qin Shi Huang
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-02-29 07:03:35 UTC
I'll probably vote for Alekseyev Karrde (bounty system), Trebor Daehdoow (organizing 10,000 papercuts project) or one of the new candidates. I don't think the current chairman is the right person for the job.

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SgtGoodEnd
BTSK
#51 - 2012-02-29 20:20:10 UTC
Replacement 234 wrote:
CCP - please kill this folly and hire a first rate marketing firm.

What corporation in the top ten thousand corps in the world has a customer advisory council elected by the customers? Customer advisory board, yes, but never elected by the customers.

All at large candidates? You end up with one view point or all individual viewpoints - nothing representational of the voter base!

Please modernize your business practices - this is more like a neighborhood association and just as petty.

Please don't take my abstention as voter apathy, but a lack of variety among the candidates.

I want a game I can play, not a system in which I must be a political organizer to get a decent game put together - That is not how a great many of your customers want to spend their game time.

Please, hire a first rate marketing firm, have them produce quality customer surveys and let the customers fill them out periodically. Use your knowledge of your demographics to appeal to new customers and quality assurance questionaires to keep in touch with your existing customers. You could select a slate of candates at random and get input as valid as you will from any group of people who are there representing their own interests as any CSM panel will do.

Just remember, the only people they represent are the ones who voted, so if you get a ten percent turnout, the "winners" will be representing just over half of that number and even if it is a landslide with the winners taking every vote cast, they will still be representing only ten percent of your customers. Take every non-vote as a "none of the above" vote.

It ain't apathy, it's disgust.

OH - and fix this damn forum that fails just about every first try to post something. Anyone who want to post anything has to copy it and try to get it to "take" the second or even more attempts - or failing that, just do a rage walk away, have one more irritant to deal with, and no one gets their viewpoint.


Very good post, Shame there's so few that can see this!


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Cosmic Fart
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-02-29 21:07:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Cosmic Fart
Replacement 234 wrote:
CCP - please kill this folly and hire a first rate marketing firm.

What corporation in the top ten thousand corps in the world has a customer advisory council elected by the customers? Customer advisory board, yes, but never elected by the customers.

All at large candidates? You end up with one view point or all individual viewpoints - nothing representational of the voter base!

Please modernize your business practices - this is more like a neighborhood association and just as petty.

Please don't take my abstention as voter apathy, but a lack of variety among the candidates.

I want a game I can play, not a system in which I must be a political organizer to get a decent game put together - That is not how a great many of your customers want to spend their game time.

Please, hire a first rate marketing firm, have them produce quality customer surveys and let the customers fill them out periodically. Use your knowledge of your demographics to appeal to new customers and quality assurance questionaires to keep in touch with your existing customers. You could select a slate of candates at random and get input as valid as you will from any group of people who are there representing their own interests as any CSM panel will do.

Just remember, the only people they represent are the ones who voted, so if you get a ten percent turnout, the "winners" will be representing just over half of that number and even if it is a landslide with the winners taking every vote cast, they will still be representing only ten percent of your customers. Take every non-vote as a "none of the above" vote.

It ain't apathy, it's disgust.

OH - and fix this damn forum that fails just about every first try to post something. Anyone who want to post anything has to copy it and try to get it to "take" the second or even more attempts - or failing that, just do a rage walk away, have one more irritant to deal with, and no one gets their viewpoint.



I have suggested the same many times before, just not as brilliant as you have. They could just as easily have an opening screen survey to get what the majority of players want.

The present method fails on so many levels it stinks. (No pun intended.)

Remove the CSM completely and save the money spent to fly useless bags of water to Iceland. Use that money saved to invest in a marketing firm that will give you true indicators of what the majority wants. Current method only facilitates the wants and wishes of the people like Mittani who have clearly stated they care nothing for anyone who doesn't vote for them.

We all pay the monthly subscription one way or the other which means we ALL should have a voice, period!
Paintchk
Facepunch Industries
#53 - 2012-03-01 02:26:44 UTC
I'm I little lost here. I'm trying to post my submission but its saying "Currently there is no open submission period." I got the newsletter saying I can try. Did I mess something or is submissions over?

Be helpful :)
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#54 - 2012-03-01 03:38:17 UTC
Paintchk wrote:
I'm I little lost here. I'm trying to post my submission but its saying "Currently there is no open submission period." I got the newsletter saying I can try. Did I mess something or is submissions over?

Be helpful :)


Uh, step 1 for running for CSM is to be paying attention to things like the dev blog that lays out the deadlines for applying.

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Syninder
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-03-01 11:14:01 UTC
Paintchk wrote:
I'm I little lost here. I'm trying to post my submission but its saying "Currently there is no open submission period." I got the newsletter saying I can try. Did I mess something or is submissions over?

Be helpful :)


This here is the vast majority of your player base. Is it any wonder the organised groups win CSM seats?
Cosmic Fart
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-03-01 14:22:20 UTC
Syninder wrote:
Paintchk wrote:
I'm I little lost here. I'm trying to post my submission but its saying "Currently there is no open submission period." I got the newsletter saying I can try. Did I mess something or is submissions over?

Be helpful :)


This here is the vast majority of your player base. Is it any wonder the organised groups win CSM seats?



Yeah... really. I mean we wouldn't want anyone up there that doesn't understand the correct way to post charcters for sale like the CSM I saw post a few months back. Better yet someone in there that doesn't understand wormhole mechanics would we?


Praytell let someone in that wants to do away with all minerals in WH space!


Oh... I heard a rumor that one of the current CSMs wants to do something about Tech II ships/items and trade hubs? What is all that about? Something about risk/reward for hi-sec again?
Aiifa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-03-01 16:12:01 UTC
Cosmic Fart wrote:
Syninder wrote:
Paintchk wrote:
I'm I little lost here. I'm trying to post my submission but its saying "Currently there is no open submission period." I got the newsletter saying I can try. Did I mess something or is submissions over?

Be helpful :)


This here is the vast majority of your player base. Is it any wonder the organised groups win CSM seats?



Yeah... really. I mean we wouldn't want anyone up there that doesn't understand the correct way to post charcters for sale like the CSM I saw post a few months back. Better yet someone in there that doesn't understand wormhole mechanics would we?


Praytell let someone in that wants to do away with all minerals in WH space!


Oh... I heard a rumor that one of the current CSMs wants to do something about Tech II ships/items and trade hubs? What is all that about? Something about risk/reward for hi-sec again?


non sequitur!

well done
T271
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-03-02 10:58:29 UTC
I'm voting for Voloses cause I know he can do what the people of eve want.
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity
#59 - 2012-03-03 20:59:37 UTC
I'm not voting for anyone with an A'postrophe name. If they think so deeply within the cheap sci-fi cliche box when choosing a name, what are the chances of thinking outside the box in a CSM meeting?

I think Issler Dainze has been overlooked as a candidate who could garner serious amounts of votes if the average high-sec player who wants to venture further out wants to be represented, particularly the industrialists.

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Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
#60 - 2012-03-06 13:01:07 UTC
Not seeing DJ Big Country on the list :(


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