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Not supported as is. I think it's a better idea to transform supercarriers for this role. Essentially they'd be like ship hangar arrays in POSes but mobile and with the typical supercarrier tank. You can change strategies on the fly with them, and replace losses very quickly. It'd also be even more of a pain to lose.

Then you could remove the turrets from Titans and tweak the way doomsdays work to be a solid counter. Two birds, one stone. Supercap problem solved. Supercarriers function more like carriers ought to, and Titans are no longer wtfbbqpwnmobiles to anything but cap ships.

That's actually a really good question. I don't have a solid answer, but I'm open to suggestions.

A couple things I thought of, off the top of my head, which are probably the most obvious answers ..

Option 1) Caps/Supercaps supposedly can't use stargates because of some sort of mass limitation on the stargates themselves. By this logic, any ship that is capable of carrying multiple rigged, unpackaged battleships also wouldn't be able to fit through a stargate. Therefore, these ships would not work in highsec but still be viable in low/nullsec where their force-projection capabilities are most needed anyway. It may not be the most pleasant answer, but then again by the same token how easy should it be for a nullsec alliance, or anyone really, to cross from one end of the galaxy to the other? Something important to consider.

Option 2) Allow them to use stargates, but still not be able to cyno in highsec. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense by the lore as far as I understand it, but if it must be done for some reason beyond "How awesome would it be if ..." then that's one way.

Option 3) Special cyno for supercarriers ("motherships" if you will, like they used to be called.) It'd work in highsec. Again, doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but you can write it into the lore as a new tech breakthrough or that this new, modulated cyno is permitted by CONCORD. It's still very important to consider the ramifications of giving nullsec quick and easy access to regions far, far from their home turf (naps are already a pretty rampant problem according to some of us, and why bother fighting your neighbors when you can fight someone really far away at your relative liesure?)


Based on these knee-jerk options, I like the idea of keeping this sort of force-projection ability out of highsec. I am open to discussion and suggestions though, for sure. I don't have all the answers, just feedback as a really old player. :)

It is designed to be a Tier 2 Freighter, so that later down the line, a Tech 2 (jump-capable) version can be produced.

I was being sardonic with that post.

What I actually meant was don't just assume that this proposal is for low/null sec as people do still need to move ships around hi sec space as well.

This proposal would benefit all.

Oh and by the way? Freighters, Jump Freighters and Orcas are capital ships and they are already used in hi sec. As long as this ship does not have a direct combat capability, it would just be following on from the capital ships already allowed in hi sec.

Still would like to see a Tug class ship solely for moving ships.

Another bump for the future of logistics in game.

I know plenty of people that move frequently due to operations within their corporations. So, this would be exceptionally useful to them.

This would be a nice fill to a hole in the logistical aspects of warfare in New Eden.

I don't think Jack was bumping. I think he was highlighting a need for further exposure to a good idea and was very eager to garner more support by keeping this topic in the eyes of his peers.

If he was, I am sure he meant no offence or to break any rules as Jack is a very fine and upstanding player of EVE that would never break any rules.

Saying that, this is a good idea and I doubt it would break the the game to have a ship dedicated to the moving of other ships. Another isk sink that CCP is very fond of.

The idea of ship mass being prohibitive isn't necessarily an issue. We are talking about a tug after all, which is really nothing more than a cockpit and engines with a framework in between to attach ships. Not really a terribly large amount of mass there. The anchor points wouldn't even need to be enclosed. You don't see it with tow-trucks or even most auto trailers for semis, and this is basically the same idea.

This is a great idea!

not that it will benefit me personally since i live in WH but its still a great idea !

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