Player Features and Ideas Discussion

it wont inflict the market that much since it will require alot of hauling to get it to highsec. the only market that will be effected is the local markets in nullsec. but tbh every nullsec corp/alliance will prob use this ship to get people farm minerals for them so that they dont have to haul them from highsec with a high chance of getting popped.
it also gives miners a chance to get into nullsec without having to spend ages training combat skills while they dont want to

In which case I'd see it as a significant imbalance in the game and the risk/reward model. As you are then not only heavily skewing yields but moreso in certain areas and making it easier or less risky to do so theoretically as I imagine is your intended design.

its a capital mining. its easily gankable and if all nullsec corps have one, will will balance itself. but good luck discussing the ow so worthy subject about drone region because you seem to like that more. i will stfu now and repost it tomorrow

Don't we already have a Rorqual? :D

No it wont balance itself out if all null corps have one, as what about those who arent in null sec idiot? (Completley missing the point again)

But please push for your mining "death star" of inequality and bankruptcy if that is what you really want either today or tomorrow. I know it wont be implemented as is as a proposal due to the meta issues associated with it.

Trit is not the only mineral.

Of course it will effect the high sec market by "knock on effect". Either by flooding it with ABC minerals at a profit to the null seccers who have access to the new capital ship to mine it in larger quantities or any other mineral of relevance should they choose to do so. Also by virtue that there is less dependancy on the other areas markets as a result it also has an effect to it.

By virtue of making it less "gankable" by "regular" sub capital means and that it is a capital ship affords better possibilities for its use. And by removing the need to do this less hauling that you considered risky you are removing that consideration also.

Of course should these ships be "defensable" is certain alliances defended space then suddenly it becomes a seriously viable mining platform that significantly outstrips all others. By virtue of its creation you have assigned the possibility of assigning defensive measures for it. Especially as you are aware of it's value and potential risks. Thus affording a significant advantage to its deployment.

I suggest cleaning that crystal ball you have it seems to be covered in BS.

at the moment, most of the minerals is comming from the drone region, not form the other regions. simply because they use the minerals by there own to build ships, capitals and station. so this will not effect the market since (you said this yourself) drone region wont get these miners since they kill drones and get their minerals from the loot.

and a capital mining in lowsec is an easy pray since especially this one cant defend itself propperly. as you can see, it can only have 5 vespa's out. so there will only be a hand full mining in lowsec and selling it in highsec. and even if they do that, they will need a orca by there side so hau l for them since their own cargohold will have too few space to let it cycle 3 times.

therefor it will mostly be used in nullsec for own use (like i already said a few times now) and WONT EFFECT HIGHSEC THAT MUCH AS YOU THINK <- this time a little bigger since you appearently dont see this line.

so please, come with a valid argument.

roflysst ....... Erm, if you actually spent two seconds to actually read the topic you'd see that the drone regions or gun mining has been seriously nerfed due to crucible. That's really what part of the discussion was about and its knock on effects. As a result, now is probably a very good time for mining as a result of those changes. Way to go with knowing what your talking about.

And apart form that you are saying that to compensate for an imbalance in null sec is to make it worse?



Have done with many, you seem to simply be in denial about them.

So you are saying that virtually all the ABC minerals on the main hubs in high sec is supplied from non null sources. All the tech 2 and the moon goo items required to build them is supplied from outside of null sec.

I would find that very hard to believe. However, seeing as you are using a figure to site a claim firstly please provide evidence that 99% is retained.



And I don't deny the designs to make things easier, this is why it supports by argument of making it an imbalancing proposal.

Unaware of any fueling capabilities in W-Space as far as I'm aware they are dependant on ICE from elsewhere. Also with the reduced mass capabilites afforded to worm holes it would likley mean that the required ships needed to successfully gank this capital might be limited as a result to sub capital class ships in WH space needed to effect them. (At least with the current designs, not if certain current CSM plans get underway of course).

For which you are responsible for since you arent proving anything to support your claims and hold nothing but a biased argument whilst in denial and showing a distinct lack of knowledge or awareness about the game.

Not fooling anyone bud about simply being passionate about "forcing" your idea through however.