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A gameplay brainstorm:

Territorial Minigame: From the demos that have been publicly released, this clearly already has some work done on it and could be released once we get multiple avatars in the same room.

Criminal Contacts: Like agents, but you have to meet them in-person. They assign missions as usual (although this might demand new missions be designed), but have a vastly reduced expiration compared to ordinary missions. Going over the time limit means CONCORD catches up and fines you. Success means you gain LP with the criminal faction which you can cash in to buy certain information or maybe even favors (Wouldn't it be neat for a capsuleer to hire off-duty Serpentis goons to fly a brief security detail? Or perhaps find out what R&D jobs his rival is running?)

Gossip: This would be tricky to pull off well, but could have NPCs lounging around in bars talking to each other about recent faction/corp warfare events, similar to how the capsuleer's TV goes on about incursions and nullsec war events. Maybe incorporate a similar information feed in public locations (what bar doesn't have a TV somewhere?).

Covert Ops: This may not work. I know combat is off the table for a long time. But what about more clandestine gameplay? Could have skills for disguise, bypassing electronic station security, bluffing, and then use them to gain access to bars/corp offices you shouldn't, to obtain potentially useful information you wouldn't otherwise know (similar to the criminal contacts section above, but ). Getting caught would mean a fine and security status drop, as well as an alert to the target that so-and-so has been caught conducting espionage. Corps could buy greater security to make it more difficult to perform espionage, as well as having the ability to accuse a suspect in person if they see something suspicious.

No Comms: If people want to stay docked in their ship or sitting in their room, they can stay on comm channels, but if they're out someplace in the station and "off-grid" it would make sense that they don't have immediate access to the normal local/corp/alliance/group comm channels, though there could be a new comm window to log nearby chatter.

Disclaimer: These are provided in no particular order of merit. There are likely problems with all of them. But since we're talking about making WiS more gameplay-oriented, I thought I'd brainstorm a concrete list of ways I'd like to see it become more integrated into the overall EVE gameplay experience.

I think establishments COULD add something for the ... more social players, those more inclined to trading, marketing, and running your space bars, brewing your quafe: special edition, and getting you drunk in game :)

@Bloodpetal - Not sure I approve of the idea of F2P eve, how does it fit into eve lore vs character/capsuleer creation? Secondly, you suggest going from F2P to sub, would you suggest the other way around, from sub to F2P (which would make NO sense imo).

@Camios - I disagree, or rather, your approach is not a bad one, rather, instead of penalizing people for using OOPE (out of pod experience) how about reward them for granting bonuses for ... R&R? Like resting your eyes so you can target better?

It actually does make perfect sense.

PLEX = Pilots License Extension Program..

No PLEX = No License = No Flying.

You can be a capsuleer and not be able to fly, and vice versa.

As a trial player, you would start as a capsuleer able to fly, when your trial ends you can walk around stations and interact, etc. When you're ready to fly again, you pick up a PLEX and become a licensed pilot and can fly again.

It's so obvious it hurts actually.

I'm really glad to see that after five years of talk the multiplayer part of Ambulation/Walking in Stations/Incarna is hitting pre-production.

You guys might actually beat Duke Nukem Forever after all with regards to delivery, we will kno win 2020.

I'm not going to repost any ideas, there are hundreds upon hundreds of threads to be found across the old and new forums with fantastic ideas.

""After giving you access to your own Captains Quarters we had been planning to roll out corporation owned and run establishments with contraband trading, group boosters and gambling minigames. That got put on hold due to our changed focus. Rather than stubbornly keeping to that plan, we have decided to go back to the drawing board and examine better: what delivers a meaningful experience? What provides replayability, fits into existing paradigms already established in the game, provides opportunity for collaboration and/or violent griefing, and feels like proper sandbox EVE?""



W T F CCP? you promised!

As long as it remains optional (don't try to pull of that "we're going to make you load this resource hogging engine every time you want to change ships m'kay?" stunt again) I look forward to some more Incarna in the future,

For now spaceships need more improvements and balancing. 0.0 is virtually dead, high sec incursions are isk fountains, supercaps still aren't anywhere near balanced, the sov system sucks, faction warfare need improvements, war decking need improvements, numerous ships need rebalancing, the scale of ships/stations/carriers/supercarriers are still all wrong, industry UI is a nightmare, high-sp characters running out of useful skills to train and so on.

But when you do get around to actually commit more to incarna (after the 2013 winter expansion maybe) try to add immersion to the game instead of taking it away. The way the pod is placed currently is just awful for example, we need a pod room.

Awesome. I was hoping to hear something about all of this at some point. Glad to see we're still moving forward with one of the parts of the game I've always been looking forward too. And I want sleeve tattoos.

It's good to get some news from Team avatar, and certainly they look pasisoante and serious business.

So far when thinking about WiS i always focused on the social aspect of ti, for a simple reason: social interaction is the mother of emergent gameplay. One of the most lively features ingame it's the chat window, always riddle with ongoing discussions, jokes, chit-chatting, ASCII graphics and other funny things to do that revolve around dealing with other people who, unlike the rest of EVE, can't harm your abbility to have fun ingame there.

That should not change. Avatar gameplay should not open the door to more reasons to avoid people ingame, rather encourage a pleasing social interaction just to counterbalance how unforgivingly thuggish and "assholeish" is the average EVE P2P interaction.

This needed bumped
Id be much happier if ccp implemented a "chat poker" system instead, or you know other ways to interact with people besides chat/splosions. WiS could be cool if you could get everyone in New Eden together (jita lagfest) or didnt have 12 thousand stations.. oh wait... The only implementation I can see is perhaps single player? since i doubt people will truly use "clubs" or "bars" and logistically it may be too much to integrate everything smoothly. How this didnt come up in development is beyond me, even in 2006 (http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=401). ~5 years and were chugging along...Really.

CCP i love your game, you have a great community which i like being a part of but please get realistic. There are some items that need work not the least of which is the UI or FiS or game mechanics changes. I dont mean to be melancholy but i feel obligated to share feedback since thats what your PR is campaigning on now. I have high hopes for Eve and id very much like to be a part of it but im sorry i dont see WiS really needing to be much more than it is now when you could have resources directed towards things players may actually use.

TL:DR
WiS is an awesome idea but creating the star wars cantina vibe is probably not how players will use it(unless you majorly change the game) Besides given the scope of Eve it would suck to implement.

Please direct your resources into the UI which unlike WiS everyone will see ALL of the time.

Thanks for the confirmation that, after 5+ years of development, you still haven't worked out any way to make WiS fun or interesting, and that you're now actually scrapping the few features you had previously announced.



Well at least one constructive thing will come out of this whole debacle, I guess.