Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As you all know, miners currently dont belong in nullsec. they dont mine enough to support all the capital builds and they pritty much waste their time since you can easily run incursion and buy the minerals and then haul.
i think mining (in this case Nullsec/Lowsec mining) needs a little upgrade. so i was thinking about what it was missing, not how to boost it. and then it hit me:

at the moment you got capital ships in all shapes and sizes: PvE, PvP, Hauling, Crushing and Hauling. but for some reason you dont have one for mining. which is (tbh) really strange. so i took the time to sit down a think about what it needs and how to not make it overpowered but still good for a nullsec corperation/alliance to have a few of them mining.

so imagine a capital ship with the following specs:

4 Highslots -> 3 turret hardpoints and 1 for something else like a drone range extender (i will explain why in a second)
5 Midslots -> for shieldtanking and maybe a survey scanner
3 Lowslots -> for cargospace extenders and maybe a damage control if you want
3 Rigslots -> just like any other capital ship

75000 HP Shield (with a recharge of 20000 seconds)
50000 HP Armor
125000 HP Structure

15000 m3 Cargohold
75 m3 Dronehold
50 Mbit/s Bandwidth

Capital Mining Ship Skill Bonus:
5% Increased yield from Capital Mining Laser per level (which i will give the specs of shortly)
5% Increased Shield Resistance per level

Ship Role Bonus:
500% Increased yield from Mining Drones (since these are used way too little)
500% Increased scan range of the Survey Scanner

And now the Capital Mining Laser specs:

Highslot (obvious)
2500m3 Yield
5 minute Cycle Time
enough powergrid usage so that other ships cant fit it (or have the ship get a bonus like -99,9% powergrid usage)
decent CPU usage

This way it isnt overpowered or anything, but can easily help out nullsec and get more miners in nullsec as well so that not only the combat community gets into nullsec.
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Before replying to this post, a few sidenotes to make some things clear:

-This ship is not allowed to mine in Highsec, its a capital ship so lowsec and nullsec only
-This ship can use gates, but just like a capital ship, its slow and vunerable
-READ THE POSTS, dont post something thats already said
-if you are against this, have a good solid argument to explain why you dont like it
-and last but not least, RESPECT OTHERS OPINION!

Enjoy!

well i really want the mining drones to be used more then they do atm, therefor i made it a 500% bonus yield so they bring up alot more minerals

Cool.

I agree, but increasing the amount of minerals you mine is ultimately no different than having a lower limit

Might want to read this recent thread afore you assume it's "all rosey" with drone alloy removal.

The mining 'buff' fallacy

Not those kinds of drones. Paragon is talking about rogue drone regions in null where "mining" can already been done with a variety of caps by shooting rogue drones and looting the alloys that drop.

But seriously, the problem with mining isn't the lack of ships, it's the material distribution and the fact that what miners do is somewhat obsoleted by those ratting in rogue drone space (and to a lesser degree mission loot drops). Plus, there's the whole snoozefest mining mechanics thing that's automated incredibly easily which means bots. AND ratting bots in drone regs. So, a ship isn't the solution for the problem mining is facing.

Interesting.

Unfortunately it's also totally wrong

So you took about 5 mins to read the thread and simply dismiss those points with no reason or evidence to suggest otherwise, how very interesting.

The topic is very relevant to your proposal OP as it discusses the ideas behind improving mining yields or redistribution of minerals. Which since your idea suggests improvement to yields with a capital mining ship should be of interest to you.

yes, drone region can farm minerals with normal capital ships in large number, but the rest of new eden doesnt.
so if you want to discuss this, make a new topic or join the old topic. this topic is for this ship and how it can be very usefull

Erm, I think your missing the point, improving mining yields does nothing to help the miner. Especially if it isnt balanced in the economy. As any improvements can simply act to oversaturate the market and therefore drive mineral values down. It's a basic mechanism of the economy.

And I'm sorry you do not own the forum, as such I'm entitled to express my opinions as I like. (I'm sorry if you think the cross posting isnt helpful, but I really don't want to have to type all the relevant discussion out when its allready available)