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Cleo Pandora
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-09-20 23:28:29 UTC
Ravens, CNRs, Domis, Apoc's, Geddons,Tyhpoons... But which of these Battleships have on average the most DPS ( Damage Per Sec).

Ive heard the tyhpoon is really good, and the Nightmare and CNR.

But what battleship on average has the best DPS with T2 Fitted Modules in your opinion?
Goose99
#2 - 2011-09-20 23:33:35 UTC
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Ravens, CNRs, Domis, Apoc's, Geddons,Tyhpoons... But which of these Battleships have on average the most DPS ( Damage Per Sec).

Ive heard the tyhpoon is really good, and the Nightmare and CNR.

But what battleship on average has the best DPS with T2 Fitted Modules in your opinion?


Vindicator.
Cleo Pandora
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-09-20 23:40:07 UTC
Vinny hmm... How much DPS do they have?
Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#4 - 2011-09-20 23:42:35 UTC
Vindicator has the most DPS...but worst range.

Nightmare or Machariel probably have the best DPS at range.

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Large Collidable Object
morons.
#5 - 2011-09-20 23:52:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Vinny hmm... How much DPS do they have?



If you shield tank and pimp it, it would be around 2000 dps with drones and heat (up to 2550 dps if you'd use void and implants - but that's an EFT warrior fit anyway) . But yeah - from a practical perspective, it would be the mach.
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Goose99
#6 - 2011-09-20 23:56:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Goose99
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Vinny hmm... How much DPS do they have?


1.5k dps blaster gun only dps... at blaster range, lol. The 2k dps figure is with Void, t2 dmg rig and 5 heavy drones. It's not considered to be a real workable figure.

Mach is around 900 ac gun only dps, slowly decrease over 70km falloff. Dps loss due to tracking is much smaller than other guns.

NM is 1k Tach gun only dps for up to around 45km optimal, subject to tracking loss, but alleviated by NM tracking bonus, drops off over the next 35km falloff.
Abenham
Lone Wolves Sub.
#7 - 2011-09-21 00:38:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Abenham
Maybe the question you should be asking first is; what am I going to use this battleship for?

Followed by the question; how much isk do I have to invest in my new battleship sized coffin?

Perhaps to answer this you should look at either "dps per isk". Maybe you should create an index for a scale on "versatility enagagement envelope". Or perhaps you should have a piece of toast trying to think of a third alternative suggestion to solving the conumdrum you've presented.... wait, don't do that. That's what I'm doing.

Let me know how you get on.

Ax

Post Toast Edit: Dps Dealt to Dps Tanked Ratio (either actively or buffer)
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-09-21 01:47:35 UTC  |  Edited by: EvEa Deva
I live in Amarr my CNR is a steaming pile Vs amarr rats, take it to Caldari space and it rocks the house.

There is NO best BS for everything, unless they make a BS sized tengu Roll <---sarcasm alert
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#9 - 2011-09-21 03:02:37 UTC
Absolute top as said is the vindicator but it has such terrible range, I don't consider it the best DPS BS nor do most others. So excluding that (and similar ships like the navy mega), you have a few options to choose from. A pulse navy geddon with sentry drones puts out a very impressive 1300-1400 dps with t2 gear and 5% hardwirings and it does it without turning into a glass cannon. The CNR is also a favorite, able to pump out about the same. The macherial only puts out average dps (1000-1100) but it's massive falloff bonus and high mobility make applying that dps much easier, and thus it tends to feel like it has a lot more punch than it really does. For a straight t1 ship, the standard geddon I think gets top marks. It's every bit as ganky as the navy version, it just doesn't have the extra drone space for utility and it's a fair bit squishier. Still no glass cannon though.

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-09-21 05:31:56 UTC
Protip: NM and Abaddon have the same DPS and same drone bay. NM is 7 m/s faster though.

A Torp/AC Phoon takes alot of skills to be able to use to be even remotely near its full potential... but if you have excellent missile, gunnery and drone skills + Minmatar BS @ 5, and you are in a small fleet with tacklers and some TP's, then you can apply all that 1600 or more DPS (standard T2 fit, up to about 2100 with faction stuff).

Phoons are way fun cause they are very fast, cheap as hell, and spit out insane DPS.

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Theodemir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-09-21 11:05:03 UTC
Nightmare.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-09-21 12:14:19 UTC
[Bhaalgorn, Why not?]

Dark Blood Heat Sink
Dark Blood Heat Sink
Dark Blood Heat Sink
Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Dark Blood Stasis Webifier
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier
Republic Fleet 100MN MicroWarpdrive
Dark Blood Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Dark Blood Warp Disruptor

Dark Blood Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Collision Accelerator I
Large Anti-Explosive Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II


Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5

No Worries
Joss56
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-09-21 12:33:54 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Vinny hmm... How much DPS do they have?



If you shield tank and pimp it, it would be around 2000 dps with drones and heat (up to 2550 dps if you'd use void and implants - but that's an EFT warrior fit anyway) . But yeah - from a practical perspective, it would be the mach.



Thing is: "paper numbers"

Why? -how many chances do you have to be on top of your target and apply said dmg at 100%?

I'd rather fly some Phoon and be able to apply it's dps from far distances than 2k 30sec cause I'm already in the hull the moment i can apply this theoretical dmg and assuming the phoon pilot is afk ...

Chances are that your 1B+ space pinata is a "call to gank " leaving very small chances he will survive in regular fight conditions, sure if you pick the usual grievers with ecm/logis combo vs newbs or miners/indy's who can't even full T2 fit a t1 cruiser...
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#14 - 2011-09-21 15:14:29 UTC
Joss56 wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Vinny hmm... How much DPS do they have?



If you shield tank and pimp it, it would be around 2000 dps with drones and heat (up to 2550 dps if you'd use void and implants - but that's an EFT warrior fit anyway) . But yeah - from a practical perspective, it would be the mach.



Thing is: "paper numbers"

Why? -how many chances do you have to be on top of your target and apply said dmg at 100%?

I'd rather fly some Phoon and be able to apply it's dps from far distances than 2k 30sec cause I'm already in the hull the moment i can apply this theoretical dmg and assuming the phoon pilot is afk ...

Chances are that your 1B+ space pinata is a "call to gank " leaving very small chances he will survive in regular fight conditions, sure if you pick the usual grievers with ecm/logis combo vs newbs or miners/indy's who can't even full T2 fit a t1 cruiser...



Actually, that's what I said with 'EFT warrior fit' and the reason I said the Machariel was the most powerful BS - agile and fast as a BC, great range and easily hits 1400 dps using a reasonably priced fitting.

The problem is the OP asking for the 'most powerful BS' in the topics header and for the highest DPS BS in the post, which is obviously not the same under most circumstances.
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Cleo Pandora
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-09-21 16:02:56 UTC
Forget circumstances, whats the best dps for isk ship. For example a t2 fitted CNR is pretty hard to beat. the mach is clearly a good ship, but not the one for the job. and the nightmare sounds like a very good pos basher, but not as good as the poon. The Vinni is the beast thanks alot.
Kesshisan
#16 - 2011-09-21 16:50:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kesshisan
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Forget circumstances, whats the best dps for isk ship. For example a t2 fitted CNR is pretty hard to beat. the mach is clearly a good ship, but not the one for the job. and the nightmare sounds like a very good pos basher, but not as good as the poon. The Vinni is the beast thanks alot.


For a reasonable fit, you can do a weird sentry typhoon:

[Typhoon, SentryPhoon]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Ballistic Control System II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Cap Recharger II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
[empty rig slot]


Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

This is 700 DPS at all Vs with no implants or boosters (down to 625 if you use T1 missiles.) This is setup for 745 DPS tank vs Serpentes with the cap booster running. This whole setup is probably under 100 mil.

For an unreasonable fit, you can neglect your tank to free up the CPU and powergrid needed to stick on torps and auto-cannons. Alternatively you could even do a blaster Dominix. Both the Dominix and Typhoon are capable of dishing out a lot of damage because they can sport a full fleet of heavy or sentry drones with a lot of guns while both ships are fairly inexpensive in the world of battleships.
Izuru Hishido
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-09-21 19:59:23 UTC
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Ravens, CNRs, Domis, Apoc's, Geddons,Tyhpoons... But which of these Battleships have on average the most DPS ( Damage Per Sec).

Ive heard the tyhpoon is really good, and the Nightmare and CNR.

But what battleship on average has the best DPS with T2 Fitted Modules in your opinion?


For what situation? What are you intending to use it for?

Also, thank you for insulting every PVPer that's read this thread by assuming we don't know what DPS means.

I'll give you an answer right now. There isn't a single battleship that outperforms every other battleship in every situation. It depends tremendously on what you're trying to do before you decide which is the best.
Cade102
Cade Industries
#18 - 2011-09-21 20:10:11 UTC
Maelstroms can throw out a hell of alot of DPS and don't cost multi millions to replace
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-09-21 21:31:04 UTC
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Forget circumstances, whats the best dps for isk ship.


GAME OVER. YOU JUST LOST EVE.

lol.

The best BS for your money is the Domi of course. I costs as much as a BC and you can do lots of different things with it. :P

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Sugilite
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-09-21 21:45:43 UTC
Satav wrote:

The best BS for your money is the Domi of course
But what if I'm looking to buy a ship to enter into a doesn't look like crap contest?
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